See if you can guess which of these pictures is video and wh

Sscot McPhie · Post by **Sscot McPhie** » Tue Jan 07, 2003 12:57 pm

See if you can guess which of these if any originated on video and which if any originated on film ~ I'll let this go for a while and then reveal the answers, and why I'm doing this too.

Scot M

Post by **Mr_Floppy** » Tue Jan 07, 2003 2:34 pm

All them are video,

my two cents...

Mr Floppy

Post by **mattias** » Tue Jan 07, 2003 2:53 pm

yes, that's my guess too. both by just looking and after analyzing more closely. they all have edge enhancement, except for the bearded scot one, which just looks like underexposed video. the top one looks like somebody tried to make video look like film by the way. is this what you're doing? ;-)

/matt

Post by **Carlos 8mm** » Tue Jan 07, 2003 4:01 pm

Mmm,

The pic of the nest seems like video, the others... just like Mattias said, seems like underexposed video, bu i have my doubts.

If these pics are extracted from S8 frames... Madonna Santa!! thereÃ‚Â´s no grain!! 8O

Come on Scott, tell us wath is it !

Carlos.

Post by **Ambervision** » Tue Jan 07, 2003 4:30 pm

Autofocus miniDV is my guess.

Post by **S8 Booster** » Tue Jan 07, 2003 4:31 pm

All look like video except for the lowest one (guy with a beard!) that most likely is a scanned film frame.

R

Post by **avortex** » Tue Jan 07, 2003 6:01 pm

Video, video, video. The edge enhancement is clearly visible in many of them. But in stills, it looks good.

Post by **paul** » Tue Jan 07, 2003 6:10 pm

I think so too that the the first three are video (had a bit of doubts about the second photo of the woman), and the last one film, althought not a good picture/transfer. I do see some fine grain however, on all the pics, but think it has been added in post.

Last one looks also out of focus, and the background has softer whites.

Post by **S8 Booster** » Tue Jan 07, 2003 6:16 pm

Might add:

The last pict may be video to but may have been post processed with a "film tool" plug.

R

Sscot McPhie · Post by **Sscot McPhie** » Tue Jan 07, 2003 10:45 pm

Okay interesting....how about these two......(all will be revealed soon)

Scot M

Post by **S8 Booster** » Tue Jan 07, 2003 10:56 pm

Man = Film but may be DV with a filmplug.

Woman look like 24P DV with a filmplug.

R

Post by **paul** » Tue Jan 07, 2003 10:57 pm

they don't look video to me, lighting is more interesting, more dof, I think they are film, they are very different from the preceding four.

Post by **Mr_Floppy** » Tue Jan 07, 2003 11:00 pm

I think them all are video.

Perhaps the guy' one could be k40 desaturated, pretty like the bearded man in your firts post. Anyway, it's quite hard to see any banding in k40, and the grain could be video noise or Cinelook bad imitation.

Anyway, a good test could be small clips. Is the film motion what could easilly mark up the differences.

What happens, Scott?. Have you discovered Magic Bullet?

Mr Floppy

Basstruc · Post by **Basstruc** » Wed Jan 08, 2003 12:41 am

All your pix, except the young man are video. We can easely make the difference between grain & video noise you added. The beard guy made confused because he is slighly out of focus. There's always a little diffusion look with film because of it's structure. One of the key to do film-like video is to use a diffusion filter in shooting. Soft FX & Black Promist does good job.
Matt

Post by **avortex** » Wed Jan 08, 2003 3:20 am

It's very easy to make a consistent "filmlook" with black and white images, and of course the motion (absent here) is another important key.

Vote for VIDEO again.

Filmshooting

See if you can guess which of these pictures is video and wh

See if you can guess which of these pictures is video and wh

Mmmm,

Vote for video