SONY HIGH DEFINITION

[DIEFTHINTIS]

I just had the oportunity, in our local electronics show, to have a look of the new prosumer Sony high definition camera. The video output was fed in a plasma screen (42'', I guess), looked extremely sharp, but had that video look. The camera is selling in USA for about 3700 $, but, though there were no official figures, it is supposed to sell in the beginning for abour 5.500 euros in Greece. The camera looked very big (bigger, I think than the Sony 2000, or 2100). I just tried the manual focus, though it's not direct to the lens, felt smooth. There were also 2 big plasma screens (one of them 61'' connected - but out of sight - with blue ray DVDs). The picture had an amazing detail, so I guess the most popular topics in this forum, will be in the near future, the ones that will compare the S8 resolution to that of the HDV. What seems to be an expensive solution for the time being is the realtime editing (with the Canopus and Matrox solutions ranging from 3200 to... 8000 euros, excluding the computer)!.

Michael

[reflex]

Hmm. $3700 would pay for a shiny mint Canon 1014 XL-S and about 100 rolls of film, plus developing and telecine. Now THAT would be fun to chew through.

And, in five years, the Sony camcorder will have depreciated to the same value as the 1014, so its like getting 100 rolls for free! :lol:

[reflex]

Hmm. $3700 would pay for a shiny mint Canon 1014 XL-S and about 100 rolls of film, plus developing and telecine. Now THAT would be fun to chew through.

And, in five years, the Sony camcorder will have depreciated to the same value as the 1014, so its like getting 100 rolls for free! :lol:

[jimmyking]

Gia sou patrida!

[stoney]

NOT 24p, 2:3:2:3 pull-down of 60i
The sony 1080i HDR-FX1 shoots at 60i fields/s on a native 16:9
aspect ratio CCD. So it does NOT shoot at 24p, it does a
2:3:2:3 pull-down.

Gamma modification
The camera also has a 'CineGamma' function that a reviewer
says you should do in post instead.
http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/So ... Review.htm

Depth of field
There is a small silver iris control to lower left side of the lens for controlling
the depth of field.

There is a short note in the Nov04 dv magazine under industry buzz.

Stoney

[paulcotto]

I went to downtown Houston to the Sony Style Shop to see this camera yesterday but they did not have one on display. They do have it listed on the sony style web site and it looks like a very nice camera. It might be useful for realtime film transfer but you would still need a 5 blade telecine projector like my ELMO ST-1200HD-ETC to do the transfer to avoid fliker. Or you could find a way to increase the projector to 30fps and then change the frame rate in post to 24fps.

Regards,
Paul Cotto

[MovieStuff]

NOT 24p, 2:3:2:3 pull-down of 60i
The sony 1080i HDR-FX1 shoots at 60i fields/s on a native 16:9
aspect ratio CCD. So it does NOT shoot at 24p, it does a
2:3:2:3 pull-down.

But, unless it is shooting at 30fps interlaced, that's no different than shooting film at 24fps and then watching it on video after it has been Ranked with a 2:3 pulldown. Am I missing something? What I mean is, all the motion is still broken down into a 24 increment time base, so it really is shooting 24P. If one wanted, software could easily remove the pulldown frames and leave nothing but the original 24p frames. I understand that Sony's broadcast cams shoot 24p with no pulldown frames but, if one wanted to view that footage on a regular television, then the very same 2:3 pulldown you speak of would have to be added so I really don't see any effective difference since we are still confine to watching the final footage on standard interlaced NTSC video here in the States. And if it were put onto DVD, the 2:3 pulldown is moot.

Roger