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Good news for Super 8 neg users in Australia....

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I've just discovered that DVD Infinity, in Sydney, do excellent S8 negative (and reversal) telecines!!!

:D :D :D :D :D

I don't know what sort of machine they use, but they scan each frame individually, monitor for hot spots, streaking, do a bit of colour correction, remove blank frames, etc.

It's around $500 AUD for 800 feet of S8, transfered to miniDV. (around 40 minutes.)
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Last time I checked Video 8 Broadcast in Sydney were doing $250 per operator hour (again about 40mins of actual film) for a one light transfer on a Rank Cintel. Sounds like the checking and service at DVD Infinity is good but I'd find out what kind of machine they're using before I got too excited!

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Can the Rank Cintel at Video 8 Broadcast cope with negative film?

What's their contact details?
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Don't know but I would imagine so - their number is 02- 9438 4144

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There's a pretty big claim on the DVDinfinity web site:
We offer the highest quality Super 8, Standard 8 (Regular 8) and 16mm cinefilm transfers on the planet. Our revolutionary proprietary processing and individual frame by frame scanning provide unparalleled detail, colour clarity, contrast, sharpness and brightness. Our transfers are completely flicker free, have no hot spots, streaks, motion blur, ghosting, frame blending, wobble or uneven distribution. What's more, you will receive up to 25% more viewable image from each frame with a DVD Infinity transfer. We perform minor colour and exposure correction and carefully remove any blanks and excessive camera shake. Also because we scan your film rather than use a projector (or projector based system such as direct film to dvd, telecine chain or aerial telecine), your film is not subject to the damaging effects of tension or hot lamps.
http://www.dvdinfinity.com.au/aboutus.htm

I'd like to know the full tech specs/details of what they do - I've emailed them and asked what kind of a machine they use

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Scotness wrote:Last time I checked Video 8 Broadcast in Sydney were doing $250 per operator hour (again about 40mins of actual film) for a one light transfer on a Rank Cintel. Sounds like the checking and service at DVD Infinity is good but I'd find out what kind of machine they're using before I got too excited!

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Plenty of places can telecine it, but there is still no where to develop the film places like Cinevex and Atlab are not equiped to deal with Super 8.
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Plenty of places can telecine it, but there is still no where to develop the film places like Cinevex and Atlab are not equiped to deal with Super 8.
Yes, and we can't buy it here, either. This means buying it from overseas, and sending it back to the sellers to process.

Eg Pro8mm, Andec Technik, Kahl (who sell their own brand of S8 neg and reversal stuff from Germany).... they can all process the film, and often sell carts with process fee included.

It means lots of overseas shipping, but if you do it in bulk, it's still cheaper than 16mm.


BTW My aim is to test out all 21 S8 stocks I know of, and to see which I like the best. I should know the results by this time next year......
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21 Stocks - holy hellI had no idea there were that many - hav eyou got the time to list them?

Have you seen this on eBay?
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... 98152&rd=1






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I think I might know the guy who is selling this - way over priced at 19 bucks - I wonder what the date on it is?

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sonickel wrote:
Plenty of places can telecine it, but there is still no where to develop the film places like Cinevex and Atlab are not equiped to deal with Super 8.
Yes, and we can't buy it here, either. This means buying it from overseas, and sending it back to the sellers to process.

Eg Pro8mm, Andec Technik, Kahl (who sell their own brand of S8 neg and reversal stuff from Germany).... they can all process the film, and often sell carts with process fee included.

It means lots of overseas shipping, but if you do it in bulk, it's still cheaper than 16mm.
I think you may find 16mm cheaper, if you look at buying short ends or re cans its only $15AUD for 100ft for neg.
I still love my S8, but for neg stock i'm taking up shooting 16mm.
Hopefully Atlab can look at dealing with super 8 one day.
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sonickel wrote:
Plenty of places can telecine it, but there is still no where to develop the film places like Cinevex and Atlab are not equiped to deal with Super 8.
Yes, and we can't buy it here, either. This means buying it from overseas, and sending it back to the sellers to process.

Eg Pro8mm, Andec Technik, Kahl (who sell their own brand of S8 neg and reversal stuff from Germany).... they can all process the film, and often sell carts with process fee included.

It means lots of overseas shipping, but if you do it in bulk, it's still cheaper than 16mm.
I think you may find 16mm cheaper, if you look at buying short ends or re cans its only $15AUD for 100ft for neg.
I still love my S8, but for neg stock i'm taking up shooting 16mm.
Hopefully Atlab can look at dealing with super 8 one day.
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I'd like to know the full tech specs/details of what they do - I've emailed them and asked what kind of a machine they use
Hi Guys,

Scot, They're not going to tell you what sort of machine they use. They have apparently made their own machine, and won't give out any details.

I have spoken to them on the phone several times before regarding NEG Telecine.

They also said that they can't guarantee colour etc. with Neg Transfers - But if you shoot a colour chart or something similar, they'll do their best to match it up.

The told me they individually scan each frame, but can only do Standard Definition, as there is not enough demand for High-Def.

The cost I was quoted was: $175 for 400 foot (if on 1 reel).

I'll be sending down some Reversal and Neg when it get's processed - I'll tell you guys how it turns out.

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markfroble wrote: They also said that they can't guarantee colour etc. with Neg Transfers - But if you shoot a colour chart or something similar, they'll do their best to match it up.

The told me they individually scan each frame, but can only do Standard Definition, as there is not enough demand for High-Def.
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Sounds a bit like they are using Roger´s WorkPrinter? Or am I guessing wrong?

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He definitely won't tell me how they do it - he won't send me a demo disk, won't put a clip on the net, won't tell me how it's done but does assure me it's better than a rank and the best transfer on the planet -- I told him I was skeptical!

To be fair he did say if I was in Sydney I could come in and have a look at a demo clip - but that's not much use to me here.

I've just emailed him with the suggestion that I give him a small section of film along with the copyright of it - say 5 secs in length - so he can telecine it and put it on the net with a normal dv codec as an avi file - so we can compare --- the file size would be 17mb. Quality and copyright were his arguements putting a clip on the net -- so we'll have to see what his response is.

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-- He also did say he'd do one reel for me for $109 -- I assume this is one 50 foot reel!!!
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Scotness wrote:He definitely won't tell me how they do it - he won't send me a demo disk, won't put a clip on the net, won't tell me how it's done but does assure me it's better than a rank and the best transfer on the planet -- I told him I was skeptical!

To be fair he did say if I was in Sydney I could come in and have a look at a demo clip - but that's not much use to me here.

I've just emailed him with the suggestion that I give him a small section of film along with the copyright of it - say 5 secs in length - so he can telecine it and put it on the net with a normal dv codec as an avi file - so we can compare --- the file size would be 17mb. Quality and copyright were his arguements putting a clip on the net -- so we'll have to see what his response is.

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-- He also did say he'd do one reel for me for $109 -- I assume this is one 50 foot reel!!!
I read somwhere that dvd Infinity do a Flying Spot Transfer?

What is the bloody secrecy, every other telecine joint advertisers what they use.
$109 is expensive for one roll when u don't know what youre getting? you could send it to AAV and get a Transfer on there new Spirit for that money.
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