Zenit Quarz 1x8C-2

[coors]

I believe that the lens that he's (Uncle Barry) referring to is shown here, directly behind the lens-mount. With the zoom lens off things are still in focus through the viewfinder... as long as they're 1.5meters or more away.

Mattias, if someone screwed it down tightly, you're going to have to get tough with it.

Owen

[bakanosaru]

Just to clear a couple of things up (you probably know already)

the lens is a c mount but due to the internal lens (12mm I believe)
normal c mount lenses won't work.

good luck

[coors]

Mattias,
I don't know if this will help, but heres a close-up of both the rear of the lens and the camera's lens mount:


I dont see anything in this simple mount system that can get out of whack (like some m42 lens mount/pin incompatibilities). So, I think that you really need to get some good purchase on the ring at the base of the lens (I marked this #1). One of those thin rubber discs that help you get the stubborn lids off of jars should be sufficient for a nice tacky grip... but before you try this, I'd take the zoom arm off(I marked this #2). It's threaded... just turn it off counter-clockwise like the lens base.
That's all I can offer, here. Good luck with it!

Owen

[coors]

Bakanosaru,
I actually remember reading somewhere that c-mount lenses will not work with the camera in question, here... but I interpreted that as... they had different mount sizes. I was already looking for lenses to purchase, this evening (after being told that 16mm c-mount lenses will work), but now (of course) that will cease until all of the facts are brought to light (if in fact they are brought to light). I surely hope they are. Thank you for this input!

Owen

[Freya]

Bakanosaru,
I actually remember reading somewhere that c-mount lenses will not work with the camera in question, here... but I interpreted that as they had different mount sizes. I was already looking for lenses to purchase, this evening (after being told that 16mm c-mount lenses will work), but now (of course) that will cease until all of the facts are brought to light (if in fact they are brought to light). I surely hope they are. Thank you for this input!

Owen

\the trouble is that even tho you take off the lens, there is stiill a lens there! This kind of gets in the way of focussing with additional lenses.

Also even if you didn't have this problem, I think that cmount video lenses would be a no no anyway as the rear of the element would be in contact with the second lens.

It's not all bad news tho! Apparently the second lens makes for a really good fixed focus prime, and you can of course rig up an anamorphic lens in front of this fixed focus lens to film in widescreen.

love

Freya

[coors]

While looking over the filters that came with the Quarz, I remembered that I had put some 46mm filters away in a chest, long ago. In the chest I found some Canon and Hoya ND filters and a Canon Polarizer. I also found a 46-49mm step up ring and some more ND filters, etc in 49mm. A good start on filters for this camera. With all of the ND filters, I could probably shoot 500T outdoors/midday with the lens stopped wide open (it's only f1.9).
Could someone share what the registration distance is of 16mm movie cameras?

Freya, Thank you for adding your thoughts! Yes, even the rear element of the original lens is VERY close to the lens behind the mount.


Owen

[coors]

Just in case anyone else may want to know what the c-mount thread and registration specs. are, here is a page with all camera lens and mount specifications: http://www.a1.nl/phomepag/markerink/mounts.htm
This page would be invaluable to anyone wanting to make an adapter to use unique other types/makes of lenses with their camera/s. Years ago, I made an adapter (I still have it) for using a "Russian" Jupiter 9 85/2 with my Olympus Pen F half frame slr. I did everything right that time and the lens even stopped exactly in focus at infinity (tested on a tall radio tower, over a mile away). That lens turned out to be my favorite portrait lens with the tiny slr, but on that camera it was no longer an 85mm... because of the half frame using a smaller area of the lenses image circle, it's focal length was near 105mm.
I'm interested in the c-mount information myself, because I want to see if it is feasible to remove the "fixed lens" that is behind the mount of the Quarz Super8 cameras, so as to use other manufacturers lenses (Zeiss glass in particular).

Owen

[soundboy]

How sharp are the lenses on these camera's ?
Are they as sharp as the lens on a K3 ?

[coors]

I'm not planning to change a thing on my present camera... but I'm wanting to get another example in lesser condition to experiment with. I'm not giving up so fast on the idea of using a set of primes with one of these cameras.

Owen

[S8 Booster]

other than that. i still haven't been able to remove the lens from my 3ehnt. it's completely stuck, even with the help of tools and some force. i'm assuming it's the innermost ring and that it should be turned counter clockwise like any screw mount, right? any suggestions?

/matt

have you tried this trix yet?:

If you can´t remove the lens by hand you may use a plier like this (gently) if you wrap the lens inner body with a piece of leather.



R

R

[mattias]

i will, thanks. btw, your "location" is too long, screwing up the formatting of this page. :-)

/matt

[S8 Booster]

i will, thanks. btw, your "location" is too long, screwing up the formatting of this page.

/matt

I know.
It is a very temporary [pickles time] link to a Nor/Swe "Connection" beating Woodstock outta Hell 8) .

R

[jhoneycutt]

Thanks for that, Monobath! Myself, I live in the US and I was wanting to try out the Walmart drop-off processing thing. I dunno... maybe mailers are the best way?!Owen

I go along with the other post that said to call Kodak for the best prices. I would buy some K-40 from Kodak *with out processing* and then you can drop it off at Walmart (for a good price) if you like.

Here is the toll free number to call to have Kodak mail you some film. I believe the price break is at 5 rolls, so if you can afford it, buy five rolls to start. It will save you a lttle money:

1-800-621-3456

I believe Walmart uses Dwayne's Photo, and Dwayne's does not process Ektachrome VNF 7240. So if you buy some Ekt, you need to send it to Kodak (buy some PK59 mailers) or someplace else for processing.

The best prices I have found for PK59 mailers is B&H Photo. They cost $5.79 each plus some postage. I buy them in packs of 10:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/control ... &image.y=9

If you buy your film in lots of 5 each or larger from Kodak, and then use Walmart or the PK59 mailer, you can cut down on your cost.

I love Dwayne's Photo. The quick turn around is wonderfull. And they will splice several rolls of film onto one reel at no extra charge. This is so much better than having Kodak mail you back 8, three inch rolls of film. Dwayne's cost is (I think) 12.00 per roll of K-40.

Can someone post the price of Walmart processing? Is it $4.99 or someting?

jack in Portland Oregon

[coors]

Thank you for sharing all of this information, Jack! B&H sends me several catalogs, but all are digital camera related and I would never have known about the mailers. I still have not purchased any Super8 film, as I want to make certain that my camera is operating correctly, before placing an order through the 1-800 number that you provided. I'm trying to get some cheap film (from eBay) for the testing. Also, my Sekonic light-meter (another eBay purchase) arrived last week, but did not come with a "high slide" (for bright mid-day light)... so I've had to order one from B&H (I expect it any day). And... I've yet to get a decent tripod and fluid head. If all comes together, ever... hopefully I'll get some time in with this camera, so that it's use will be somewhat reflexive (no costly mistakes with the "precious" film stock).

Owen

[Jean Poirier]

I did receive my camera but it is the C-3 double super 8 model. I have fomapan DS8 in stock. The lens is the same I think but I am not sure it can be detached like the C-2. There is a silver colored collar with small screws on the camera body. Anybody ever tried with a DS8 model? Jean