Editor and Splicer for R8?

[Gobo]

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what sort of viewer/editor and splicer I should start to look for while I'm shooting my first rolls?

There are a ton of different models out there. I want to buy one that people recommend.

Any ideas?

cheers

Gobo

[wahiba]

Cemented splices from over fourty years ago are still fine. In fact I cannot ever remember having a splice break on me during projection. In fact I still have, and use the fourty year old cement!

Tape splices also work fine. Having acquired second hand cheapo tape splicers, and splices over the years I have tried them out. Again no problem.

It obviously comes down as much to technique as the quality of the splicer. With cement make sure all the emulsion is scraped off on its bit of film and the other non emulsion side is roughed up rather than left smooth. Also give it time to set in the splicer, do not open too quickly.

As for tapes, just make sure it is firmly in place with no bubbles.

[tim]

Hi,

Splicers: really, there is only one! Try to get a Bolex cement splicer, especially if you intend to stripe you footage.

Editors: there are plenty on Ebay - don't pay more than 10 Euro. Always ask if the picture with no film in is 'clean' - mirrors tarnish and prisms get dirty and can be difficult to get at and clean. Many editors are dual R and S8 - worth having if you intend to handle both types. Don't worry about lamps: most editors use the same 6 V, 10 W lamps that motorbikes use as rear lights - about 1 Euro each.

[Pedro]

For splicing, I definitively would recommend the Bolex model. It works for S8 and for Reg 8 as well. I have tryed dozens of diferent splicer models and technologies, and I found that this one is absolutly the best in terms of precision, invisible result, smoothness, durability, easy and secure operation. Even no cement spots when using too much cement.
The only better system is the Haman splicer, but this is more expensive than a cam!
Pedro

[Gobo]

Thanks guys!

Ebay is dwarfed with tons of them. I didn't want to buy one that won't do a good enough job.

Where can I buy splicing cement from?

cheers

Gobo

[tim]

Although there is no doubt that the Bolex splicer cannot be beaten, an Agfa N8S splicer does produce the same double-bevelled splices.

It is not as solidly built, so registration deteriorates as the mechanics wear, and will only handle S8 film, but is worth having as a second best.

[studiocarter]

http://www.16mmoviemaking.com/store.htm

You can look 'em over on my site. The Bolex and others are under 'Equipment' being stuff I want to use and keep.

The editors that have a straight film path may be best. The Elmo, as good as it is, bends the film all around a lot and I don't like that, it makes it difficult to thread it.

Michael

[Bart Sanders]

Hi there,

Good choice, Regular8!

Splicer: Bolex. You can use the 16mm or N8/S8 model. Both are superb. You may find yourself adjusting the grinders for optimal results, there is a small screw to do just that.

Viewer: Zeis Ikon Moviscope 8 - which is the 16mm model with 8mm rolls and sprocket OR
Minette 8.
Both have extremely sharp images and punch the marking hole right next to the frame where you want the cut to be made.

[Gobo]

Thanks guys. I love this site!

I have just purchased a Bolex Splicer and am now looking out for a Viewer/Editor.

Cheers

Gobo