Losing the will

[bouncybabybucket]

I absolutely adore super8, well film actually. I had some problems with super8 first, but since I bought a decent camera I've been thrilled with my results.
However, I need to digitise my work and I can't afford a preofessional transfer so my results look awful.
I'm using a brand new transfer screen and a Sony PD 150 to telecine.
The results are incredibly grainy and I'm losing the will to use film. I started using super8 because I loved the image it gave over DV, but until I can get a good transfer at prices that aren't so prohibitive, what should I do?

[Scotness]

Where abouts are you bouncybabybucket? In Sydney you can get Super 8 ranked for $250 Australian (about US $173) per operator-hour at Video 8 Broadcast in Aartarmon. If you're far away from that and the freight would make it prohibitive perhaps you could find someone near you with a Workprinter and get a relationship going with them

Scot

[downix]

Where abouts are you bouncybabybucket? In Sydney you can get Super 8 ranked for $250 Australian (about US $173) per operator-hour at Video 8 Broadcast in Aartarmon. If you're far away from that and the freight would make it prohibitive perhaps you could find someone near you with a Workprinter and get a relationship going with them

Scot

I've often considered going halvsies on a workprinter, but noone else is nearby.

[matt5791]

There is very good Rank transfer service available in Birmingham UK. The charges are £85+vat per hour session time. If you are using K40 (or other reversal) you can have him just put it through in real time that would be quite a lot of footage for £85.

Try Second City Studios 0121 472 6641

Matt

[BK]

I have a Sony Trv900 three chipper and I got nice results with my DIY telecine. All I did was filmed off the projected picture on a sheet of A4 paper, using my Eumig 810D. Manual white balance, focus. OK not in the same league as Andreas's Rank or Roger's Workprinter but I was a little surprised by the quality one can achieve, I have seen worst transfers that people were charged for by these so called telecine setups for S8.

Are you using one of those transfer box for your telecine? The quality from those are awful, very grainy like you described.

Here is some samples that I uploaded a while back:

ftp://ftp.filmshooting.com/upload/video ... 0Scope.mpg

ftp://ftp.filmshooting.com/upload/video ... 0Scope.mpg

Don't give up yet!

Bill

[Angus]

http://www.secondcity-studios.co.uk


But not much on their site about telecine.

What formats can they transfer to?

[bouncybabybucket]

I'm based in Ireland.
The thing I used to transfer was one of those devices with the mirror and a coated screen, not very technical but slightly easier than filming off -the- wall.

When I watch the footage just being projected it looks fantastic, the colour depth is amazing, but by the time I get it into Final Cut Pro, it looks urrrugh!

[matt5791]

http://www.secondcity-studios.co.uk


But not much on their site about telecine.

What formats can they transfer to?

Their website is pretty low in info, basically because they have load of work and don't need to advertise, especially with the BBC in Birmingham moving out of Pebble Mill and into the Mail Box (crazy move) and dumping loads of their technical gear in favour of outsourcing the services to people like second city.

Terry Stanton is a total enthusiast and has been working with film and video for years and years ( he tells me he "cut his teeth" with KII).

He actually has two Rank telecine machines and can handle virtually any video format you want - you can have your footage in 1 inch reel to reel video if you like. Obviously you can have the usual Beta SP, Digi Beta, Mini DV, DVCAM, VHS etc etc.

He will always give a quote, and is happy to grade scene by scene or simple put the footage through in real time.

Matt

[sunrise]

The thing I used to transfer was one of those devices with the mirror and a coated screen, not very technical but slightly easier than filming off -the- wall.

Well, there's your first improvement. Try doing the off the wall transfer and you will se a significant difference already there.

Next step up the ladder is a work printer transfer.


michael

[Carlos 8mm]

Hi bouncybabybucket,
Remove the coated screen and put a Condenser Lens and... voilà! An HQ transfer box is done.

Carlos.

[Carlos 8mm]

Hi bouncybabybucket,
Remove the coated screen and put a Condenser Lens and... voilà! An HQ transfer box is done.

Carlos.

[Angus]

Just dump the transfer box, or better yet sell it on eBay.

You will get a better result filming off a wall, or off heavy paper. Or if colour balance is off try filming off an image projected onto cardboard.

I get no strobing whatsoever if I am careful with the speed control on the projector.

[bouncybabybucket]

thanks for all the help and replies guys!
Yeah I've noticed strobing too. I was hopeful that a slow shutter speed would work but it doesn't seem to.
Some of the stuff is 18fps and some is 24fps. Unfortunately my projector is only 18, will a 24fps projector also give me better transfers?

[bouncybabybucket]

thanks for all the help and replies guys!
Yeah I've noticed strobing too. I was hopeful that a slow shutter speed would work but it doesn't seem to.
Some of the stuff is 18fps and some is 24fps. Unfortunately my projector is only 18, will a 24fps projector also give me better transfers?

[unxetas]

hi, since you're based in Ireland I'm guessing you have a PAL camera?

If so, you need to project at either 25fps or 16.66666666fps (16,67 hehe).

24 will be close but you'll still get some flickering/strobing..