Hi,
I've been searching for information about the BAUER S 715 XL, but I can't find any info about the shutter. Could someone here share their knowledge? Is this models shutter angle adjustable? What is the maximum shutter angle? And what do you think of the final results from a well mantained example? Can this camera still be repaired/serviced somewhere? Are the Beaulieu models to be more desirable because of Bjorn's/others service? Thanks for any help you can offer.
Owen
BAUER S 715 XL Shutter Angle?
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Many thanks, OC! Then according to Ascher & Pincus's "The Filmmaker's Handbook" formula, that 200deg rotary shutter would give a 1/43 second shutter speed at 24fps. I've only been reading about filmmaking and Super 8 for a week or so, but I know that I ran across a reference somewhere to a Super 8 camera having a 225 degree shutter. For low light that would be a great thing !?!...right? I mean, is there some hidden formula that I'm not aware of that dictates some law of diminishing returns, once a certain shutter angle is crossed?
Also, I'm interested in the "variable shutter". Is there a list of Super 8 cameras somewhere that tells each models shutter specifications?
Owen
Also, I'm interested in the "variable shutter". Is there a list of Super 8 cameras somewhere that tells each models shutter specifications?
Owen
Here is the list you are looking for ....But you only can find detailed info (shutter degree too) of about 1331 Super-8 cameras 8O
http://www.kolumbus.fi/puistot/list.htm
Enjoy !!!
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http://www.kolumbus.fi/puistot/list.htm
Enjoy !!!
0C
Well, now I know my Beaulieu 1008 XL specs. too. According to "the list", my camera weighs 1800 grams, has a 225 deg shutter, either has a built in interval timer or uses an accessory one, has exposure compensation and I really like the note at the end of the specifications: $425 eBay Aug, 1999! I recently paid $95 for my mint example (save for the powerzoom not working).
I purchased a manual for my Beaulieu, Monday, from Oldtimer Cameras in London. Now, after seeing the specs., I'm very much looking forward to working with my present camera! I suddenly have lost interest in the Bauer S 715 XL, for now. Please feel free to extol the cameras virtues, if you must. I know it has "the lens" and some great features as well.
Thanks again, OC!!! You've made my day!!!
Owen
I purchased a manual for my Beaulieu, Monday, from Oldtimer Cameras in London. Now, after seeing the specs., I'm very much looking forward to working with my present camera! I suddenly have lost interest in the Bauer S 715 XL, for now. Please feel free to extol the cameras virtues, if you must. I know it has "the lens" and some great features as well.
Thanks again, OC!!! You've made my day!!!
Owen
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nice to hear someone enjoying their vintage equipment. the B.U. 1008
was made in japan by Chinon ( along with most other euro cameras at
the time ... eumig , bolex, agfa , a few bauers , etc...) not neccessarily a negative thing either. probably accounts for why it still runs today.
i have a 715 bauer , and the lens is crazy nice , a brilliant camera .
looking through the Angenieux 6mm-90mm 15x zoom almost makes
one dizzy , almost too good... a lot easier to hold and use than the B.U. 6008,7008,8008... , simpler to use than the nikon r10 , canon 1014 ,
lets you pay more attention to the subject. + doesn't have the battery issues of the early bu'S (the stupid weak round nicad that's always dead!)
HEAVY though. weighs more than my Filmo 70 , but makes for a stable
shot.
a bu 1008 should be plenty nice for just about any situation.
when you consider the cost of film + processing + the time it takes
to make film - there's much more to it than equipment.
good luck with your movies.
jp
was made in japan by Chinon ( along with most other euro cameras at
the time ... eumig , bolex, agfa , a few bauers , etc...) not neccessarily a negative thing either. probably accounts for why it still runs today.
i have a 715 bauer , and the lens is crazy nice , a brilliant camera .
looking through the Angenieux 6mm-90mm 15x zoom almost makes
one dizzy , almost too good... a lot easier to hold and use than the B.U. 6008,7008,8008... , simpler to use than the nikon r10 , canon 1014 ,
lets you pay more attention to the subject. + doesn't have the battery issues of the early bu'S (the stupid weak round nicad that's always dead!)
HEAVY though. weighs more than my Filmo 70 , but makes for a stable
shot.
a bu 1008 should be plenty nice for just about any situation.
when you consider the cost of film + processing + the time it takes
to make film - there's much more to it than equipment.
good luck with your movies.
jp
Hi Joey,
Thanks for taking the time to share some of your thoughts! Well, I received my Beaulieu 1008XL manual, from Oldtimer Cameras, today and apparently this camera not only doesn't have a built in intervalometer, but there was not one offered as an accessory either. I really need (at least I think I do, for now) the timelapse funtion, "to realize my vision". Buying a third party interval-timer is now completely rediculous ($$$$$$$$) to me. For the price I'd pay for an intervalometer, I could get some very nice camera(s) with the capability built in. I really wish that I could have found out more about the 1008-XL before buying, but there is not much to find on the net. The Beaulieu 1008 XL is a nice piece of equipment and I'm sure that it will capture footage as well, if not better, than many other cameras of its type (if the operater is skilled/competant). I've yet to capture a single frame of motion picture film in my life, but I am trying to understand all that I can before committing to the actual act of filming.
I may be back in the market again, now, for a Bauer S 715 or its equivelant. Maybe I'll put the Beaulieu back on eBay! If it sells, then good... if not, maybe it'll make a good (or even a great) backup. I agree, "its not all about the equipment"... but I'd sure like to be able to have a camera that will meet my requirements instead of having to live within the constraints of a limited feature model.
Thanks again for replying, Joey! You gave me much to think about.
Regards,
Owen
Thanks for taking the time to share some of your thoughts! Well, I received my Beaulieu 1008XL manual, from Oldtimer Cameras, today and apparently this camera not only doesn't have a built in intervalometer, but there was not one offered as an accessory either. I really need (at least I think I do, for now) the timelapse funtion, "to realize my vision". Buying a third party interval-timer is now completely rediculous ($$$$$$$$) to me. For the price I'd pay for an intervalometer, I could get some very nice camera(s) with the capability built in. I really wish that I could have found out more about the 1008-XL before buying, but there is not much to find on the net. The Beaulieu 1008 XL is a nice piece of equipment and I'm sure that it will capture footage as well, if not better, than many other cameras of its type (if the operater is skilled/competant). I've yet to capture a single frame of motion picture film in my life, but I am trying to understand all that I can before committing to the actual act of filming.
I may be back in the market again, now, for a Bauer S 715 or its equivelant. Maybe I'll put the Beaulieu back on eBay! If it sells, then good... if not, maybe it'll make a good (or even a great) backup. I agree, "its not all about the equipment"... but I'd sure like to be able to have a camera that will meet my requirements instead of having to live within the constraints of a limited feature model.
Thanks again for replying, Joey! You gave me much to think about.
Regards,
Owen
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plenty of nice bauers f.a. on ebay recently . the 512 , 709 , and 715
are well represented . most for $110.00- $350 .+shipping from germany / france ... etc ..........................check out the porst
brand bauer equivalents , the porst(#1500) version of the bauer 715
w/ angenieux apparently has an F:1.8 instead of the bauer's
F1.4 lens . porst cameras were obviously made by several different manufacturers,( some were gaf's and sears and chinons and ansco's) as were rollei and bolex , eumig.
i wouldn't buy an 80's
version of an european super8 unless i knew exactly what was inside.
the 512 , 709 , 715 bauers are badass cameras at any price.
so are the german made rollei's ( some bauers , some look like
deadringers for nizos) the way to tell ( if it doesn't say "made in japan")
is usually printed on the lens (schneider variogon, germany). nothing wrong with a japanese made
camera . it may not have the critical optics of some european
super8's , but i have found that japanese cameras in general
don't break down or fail like some other euro cams i've
struggled with .
are well represented . most for $110.00- $350 .+shipping from germany / france ... etc ..........................check out the porst
brand bauer equivalents , the porst(#1500) version of the bauer 715
w/ angenieux apparently has an F:1.8 instead of the bauer's
F1.4 lens . porst cameras were obviously made by several different manufacturers,( some were gaf's and sears and chinons and ansco's) as were rollei and bolex , eumig.
i wouldn't buy an 80's
version of an european super8 unless i knew exactly what was inside.
the 512 , 709 , 715 bauers are badass cameras at any price.
so are the german made rollei's ( some bauers , some look like
deadringers for nizos) the way to tell ( if it doesn't say "made in japan")
is usually printed on the lens (schneider variogon, germany). nothing wrong with a japanese made
camera . it may not have the critical optics of some european
super8's , but i have found that japanese cameras in general
don't break down or fail like some other euro cams i've
struggled with .