Using Vision2 500T??

Post by **mojohey** » Mon May 10, 2004 1:02 pm

Hi folks,
Anyone got advice on shooting Vision2 500T.. i just bought myself my first batch (5 rolls 8) thats a batch to me) anyway, now that i have it i now realise how little i know about the stock and shooting conditions & are my cameras good enought to shoot 500T on. I have Elmo 110... great condition and gives great results with K40 and also a Bauer A508, which is just as good if not better. But are these cameras good enough for 500T? or is this a stupid question?

I know the obvious answer is to just shoot a roll... but i'm now thinking about the money and don't really want to do a "test" roll.

So if anyone has advice on
A. Suitable conditions for shooting V2 500T.
B. Are my cameras good enough, do i need to go XL?
C. Indoor lighting?

Thanks in advance everyone. Happy shooting.

Post by **Lunar07** » Mon May 10, 2004 3:49 pm

mojohey wrote: I know the obvious answer is to just shoot a roll... but i'm now thinking about the money and don't really want to do a "test" roll.

Get yourself a light meter and shoot a test roll. In the hands of a creative film maker, even a pin hole camera made in the 18th century or so is valid enough to use with the 500T.

Post by **mojohey** » Mon May 10, 2004 6:53 pm

In the hands of a creative film maker, even a pin hole camera made in the 18th century or so is valid enough

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OK... fair enough.

But less of the sarcasm and more advice thank you.

Post by **Basstruc** » Mon May 10, 2004 7:57 pm

Pretty agree with Lunar. Anyway, 500T should not prevent you to use indoor lighting. Get yourself some 1000W and 500W Work light and directed to the walls (for reflectiv light) and get yourself a lightmeter.
Matt

Post by **jean** » Mon May 10, 2004 8:04 pm

Well, I doubt that the in -camera meter will be any useful, since there has never been 500 ASA stock before in the s8 world. So you will have to use an external meter and set the values manually on your camera. If your camera can be used in manual mode, it is OK.

I would not use this stock in daylight, and doubt that it would be possible even stopping down to f22 8O

But it should be perfect for available light filming indoors, or in cars. Just make sure that the lightest and darkest part of your scene are within the dynamic range of the stock (what you can see with your eyes most of the times is way to much contrast for film, and you may end up with correct exposed highlights ad total black shadows).

Post by **Angus** » Mon May 10, 2004 9:00 pm

I haven't shot any negative stocks but I'd not doubt for a single moment that the Elmo 110 is suitable...they are *fantastic* cameras, as I and others here can testify.

I wonder if you really need ot though...I find that in a large living room and one 1000W movie light I can shoot indoors with no sunlight from the windows on K40 with the Elmo. Vision 200T might be a better bet for you, I'd assume it has less grain than 500T.

I really would take a test roll first, you just never know what a new stock will do...how it will perform and how *you* can make it produce the results *you* like.

Post by **matt5791** » Tue May 11, 2004 4:43 pm

If your camera produces good results with K40 it will produce better results with Vison2 500T.

I was reviewing some footage last night which I shot on Vision 500T (the older stock) at night with very minimal lighting. It really opens up possibilities where light is a problem.

The stock is very forgiving, but don't let that be an excuse for poor exposure :!: Switch the camera to manual and select an appropiate f-stop. If you are shooting off the hip and don't have time to take accurate reflected of spot readings from your subjects just select an incident reading - and leave it there, unless there is a substantial change in the light. The film will cope well and you will be able to make lots of tweaks in telecine.

Matt

Post by **Godzilla** » Thu May 13, 2004 2:49 am

I want to shoot some nighttime tests with the 500T... probably some streetlight/storefront environments.

The way I figure it, I'll put a light on my subject that's just bright enough to give F2.8 with an external incident reading. At that F-stop, the fast film will give a reasonable exposure to the background environment just from the existing practicals. I think neons would probably blow out without being netted though.

Post by **T-Scan** » Thu May 13, 2004 4:40 am

The Vision2 films will be available from US Kodak by next week. the rep i talked too didn't know if there was a 5 or more discount.

Post by **matt5791** » Thu May 13, 2004 9:49 am

Godzilla wrote:I want to shoot some nighttime tests with the 500T... probably some streetlight/storefront environments.

The way I figure it, I'll put a light on my subject that's just bright enough to give F2.8 with an external incident reading. At that F-stop, the fast film will give a reasonable exposure to the background environment just from the existing practicals. I think neons would probably blow out without being netted though.

Street scenes at night can be remarkable, although the contrast can be very high indeed (some shop windows are very bright)

Matt.

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