beaulieu 4008,with which lens

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Nov 09, 2002 11:07 pm

Hello
I am in the market for any of the Beaulieu 4008 range,but which was the best/sharpest lens that came with the camera.. Thanks for any replies....

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 2:43 pm

The best ones for that camera are the Schneider 1:1.8/6-66 and the Angenieux 1:1,9/8-64. Both have an incredible macro funcionality, allowing macro shooting at all zoom settings, direct 24x36 slide reproduction possible (titles!).
The sharpes lens, adaptable to 4008 cameras, but without macro, is the Angenieux 1:1,2/6-80. With this lens, macro shooting is possible in the tele range. This is the very sharp and contrasty lens ever built for S8 cameras, but has not been sold bundeled with 4008 cameras, as far as I know.

Look for a 4008ZMII or ZMIV, these models have a declutch button and an Erlson reel. The ZMII has internal wratten filters for daylight shooting, very practical when in good condition. The ZMIV has no internal filters, the filter must be in front of the lens.

You can very easyly make your own onboard power pack for 4008 cameras, without spending €200 for a new battery. Only buy a vintage macro extension tube 15 mm x M42 and a M42 camera body cap.
The extension tube screws into the thread for the original battery.
Into the extension tube, you can pack 6 NiMH cells in AAA size, available with 600, 700 or 750 mAh, sufficient for at least 1 hour of shooting.
I made my battery out of 6 cells with soldering terminals, mounted them to onto a round board with concentric copper layers on the other side, just as the original battery. I only insert this construction into the extension tube and close it with the camera cap. Easy exchangeable and perfectly working!

Pedro

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 2:49 pm

maybe it is wise to add not to buy the 1.4 6-70mm Scheider lens. It is newer than the 6-66mm but not better. I used to have one and it showed vignetting at the wider angles when putting on filters or sunshades.

Paul

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 8:02 pm

I would like to THANKYOU for the replies...Great idea for the batteries aswell....Thanks agains

Post by **Bjorn Andersson** » Mon Nov 11, 2002 11:52 pm

Pedro

About 4008ZM4, most of the ZM4 has the internal filter only the last serie had the Schneider lens with a filter in the lens. Only cameras with a number over 505729, didnÃ‚Â´t have any internal filter.

Paul

Your problem with vignetting on wider angles when using filter and sunshade.
You have NOT used right filter and probably not the original lenshood. Together with the metal lens hood it shold be a serie 8,5 filter fitted inside the lenshood. If you use the original rubber lenshood, a 77mm filter shold be screwed in, inside the lenshood. With these original parts, only a faulty adjusted filmgate should cause vignetting.

Post by **Pedro** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 12:29 pm

Hi Bjorn,
maybe in Germany they introduced only the latest ZM4 models, because I have only heard of ZM4 without filters, and therefore the Schneider lens with in-built filter...

Pedro

BTW,
I received my 4008ZM2 from ebay and the body is in great conditions, the filter, too! My battery construction with extension tubes works perfectly, 6 AAA cells give sufficient power and I made it easy interchangeable.
The only drawback is the lens (6-66). It came BROKEN behind the iris ring, the two parts of the lens only together with one loosy screw! The seller had stated perfect conditions. Plus, the power zoom does not work, only the iris. I reclamed all that and will get back the half of the money, Ã¢â€šÂ¬ 75. For repairing the lens, Bavaria offered Ã¢â€šÂ¬ 150. I think I will look for another cheap 4008 with good lens and only let them do the adjustment.

Pedro

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 6:45 pm

Pedro,i have started constructing batteries from your great idea of extesion tubes etc, have you got a solution for the 5008s battery by any chance.....Thanks again

Post by **paul** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 7:04 pm

If you use the original rubber lenshood, a 77mm filter shold be screwed in, inside the lenshood.

I used indeed a metal sunshade (of the 6-66mm Schnieder) and a 62mm filter in front of it. So that will probably explain it.

Post by **Ugo** » Wed Nov 13, 2002 7:41 pm

Hi friends,
excuse me, but nobody talks about the Angenieux 6-90.
See here for example - but it was available for the Beaulieu too:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... 1395270555

I think this lens wonderful! Does someone agree with me?
ciao
Ugo

Post by **Bjorn Andersson** » Thu Nov 14, 2002 8:29 am

This lens, 1,4 / 6-90 has never had a C-mount. Therefore we canÃ‚Â´t talk about, to fit it on a 4008 camera.
Bjorn Andersson

Post by **Pedro** » Thu Nov 14, 2002 10:00 am

5008 battery: Sorry, I donÃ‚Â´t have any 5008 to examine the original construction. As it seems to have a screw-in battery like the 4008 and uses the same reglomatic lenses, I would say that it is very similar (2 voltages needed). Best you look how your original battery is constructed, is there a base board with 3 concentric contact rings? Then, measure the thread diameter. The problem is, to get a tube of exact the same thread diameter. If this is possible, you can make a round contact plate, using raw material for electronic printed boards. With a small battery grinder, you can work out the concentric rings out of the copper layer and then mount the cells from the other side.
I suppose, the 5008, as it is a sound camera, needs more power as the 4008 and AA size cells would be better.
Pedro

Post by **Bjorn Andersson** » Thu Nov 14, 2002 1:26 pm

The battery for 5008 has a 3 pin connection and a treaded ring to secure the battery to the grip. IÃ‚Â´m at moment recelling some batterys for 2008, 4008 and 5008. I use the old batteryhousing, the "new" batterys witll have the same size but better capacity near the double as the old ones.
Bjorn Andersson

YouTube · Post by **Andreas Wideroe** » Thu Nov 14, 2002 2:33 pm

Can the external "belt-battery" (the one I bought from you, BjÃƒÂ¸rn) be used on a 5008 camera together with the dummy socket and cable?

/Andreas

Post by **Bjorn Andersson** » Thu Nov 14, 2002 7:40 pm

The battery pack you earlier recived from me, can be used to 5008. The dummy for 4008 will not fit, the battery on 5008 is a part of the handgrip. The original accessorie for connecting external power supply is a "empty battery" with a cable connection in front. The cable connection is not same as on 4008, I can change the contact in a 5008 dummy so you can use your 4008 cable.
Bjorn Andersson