Kodak just told me K-40 is discontinued

[sunrise]

I have K-40 expiring 8/2005, most of it is already shot and waiting to be run through Andreas' new scanner 8)

I had 7 rolls dump through my mailbox at the same time the other day. Yay!

Some of the m-frames I recieved had some very purple looking expired stock on them though.

Talked to my local Kodak representative yesterday (of Kodak Nordic), not about the K-40, but the Vision2 500T, which is available here in a few weeks. I'm very excited, so I forgot everything about the K-40!

cheers
sunrise

[Angus]

If you talk to some Kodak people they believe K40 super 8 was axed years ago. Left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.

I got some 07/2005 carts recently, 7dayshop ran out a week or so ago and were able to restock quickly...they've not heard that K40 is being discontinued.

I very much doubt it would be axed without considerable notice.

[S8 Booster]

P.S. I voted for the belltower thing, but only because there were no other gun options available. I would have definitely picked a choice such as: Go to Kodak's main office in Rochester with an AK-47 and "shoot some footage". Just kidding John. If someone were to do that though, you guys in the film department should drape some movie film over your office doors, just in case :lol:

You might rather want one of these: 8-[
[Japanese aerial machine-gun style camera from the early 1940's.]


R

[MovieMaker]

We are currently selling K40 with exp. date 07 and 08/2005. As we know from our supplier in France a new batch will be made again this year. No rumors about stopping the classic Super-8 film!

As we all know Kodak made new moulds for the cartridges and spent quite a lot of money (five to six-figure sum) on them. Can´t imagine that they will be only for current and upcoming negative stocks, ´cause they aren´t a big seller compared to K40.

There´s something going on behind the curtains - but it´s definitely not the discontinuance of K40. So please stop spreading rumors and shoot more film. How can we get more people attached to this "hobby" when we confront them with such unreliable news? They´ll think twice before buying their first Super-8 gear....

John Pytlak where are you? Please give us some additional facts to end this rumors!

MovieMaker

[T-Scan]

I think Angus was saying in another post that they also spent a lot revamping K-14 processing equipment too. i'm more worried about the VNF. the only ones to blame for rumors are the reps that feed us this discontinue info on the phone. its happened to me. but i wish we could get some solid information as to what the future holds. its a little nerve racking to hear this stuff since i have now about $4000 invested in cameras, computer, and other equipment.. i'm not rich either, just what i like too do. i called today, talked to the product manager again.. sounded like he knew something but couldn't say it, only that nothing had been released. i was able to get more info from my sales rep who said its a bunch of foey and who the hell started that one. K-40 going away anytime soon is highly unlikely. if so, there would be a riot.. cause that bell tower is getting full :twisted:

[Taqi]

[Japanese aerial machine-gun style camera from the early 1940's.]

Good grief. Try shooting with that around your local train station.

[S8 Booster]

[Japanese aerial machine-gun style camera from the early 1940's.]

Good grief. Try shooting with that around your local train station.

This is the story behind:

http://www.cmp.ucr.edu/cameras/Machine_Gun_Camera.html

World War II vintage training camera. Using 35mm film this is half-frame camera, 18 x 24mm format. 75 mm f4.5 Konica Hexar lens.

Numerous photographs could be shot in succession with the Japanese machine gun camera. This World War II - vintage military camera was used for target practice, with film substituting for bullets. The size, shape, and wieght are comparable to an actual machine gun of this era.

US WWII film photographers used a somewhat similar config - mounting an Eyemo 35mm cam on a gun back for shooting.

R

[marc]

You might rather want one of these: 8-[
[Japanese aerial machine-gun style camera from the early 1940's.]


R

Al quaida is enough to handle, we don't need anymore Psychos in the world.

[marc]

As a side note, maybe that is why John Schwind has no plans of perfing K 40 in R8. Maybe he knows something that most people don't. Sorry, I don't mean to stir up more panic; it's just a thought.

[S8 Booster]

Al quaida is enough to handle, we don't need anymore Psychos in the world.

Agree on that.
Just wonering what would happen if it was rigged on a tripod in a railway station - got hooked and supplied documentation on that it is in fact a 100% cam?

R

[Lucas Lightfeat]

IF they did abandon process paid Kodachrome, or IF they hiked the price up, I would move to 16mm, or perhaps even HD.

Kodachrome's the only cost effective Super8 option. The neg stocks are more expensive than 16mm, when all's considered.

Lucas

[matt5791]

Kodachrome's the only cost effective Super8 option. The neg stocks are more expensive than 16mm, when all's considered.

Lucas

This seems like a strange thing to say. Economy is not the only reason for choosing super8. Equipment is lighter and more portable and easier to load and asthetically Super8 has a very distinct look, which can be used for a number of reasons. The list goes on.....
......and in the end Super8 is cheaper. Not just in terms of negative stock but especially with regard to camera equipment.

Here is my Super8 -v- 16mm economy comparison for negative stock.

1000ft 16mm @ 25fps = 26mins
Approx cost raw stock £150 (excluding VAT)
Approx cost processing £150 (ditto)
TOTAL COST processed: £300

550ft. Super8 @ 25fps = 26 mins
Cost raw stock £78.65 (excluding VAT. From Kodak direct)
Cost processing £120.78 (ditto. Process via Widescreen cntr.)
TOTAL COST processed: £199.43

I do like 16mm, a lot, but Super8 is definitely cheaper.

Matt

[Godzilla]

I only recently found this board, so nobody knows me here. But I'm definately not "starting rumors". I posted info that I was told over the phone by someone in Kodak's technical department practically word-for-word.

I agree that Kodak is a big company and people don't often know what's really going on. The rep may have been confused because of the discontinuance of Ektachome stocks. I think it's also possible they would have told me anything to not have to bother taking my expired film back. It's also possible, however the least likely scenario, that K-40 really is going to be discontinued.

Kodak's bottom line will always dictate weather the Super 8 format will continue to be supported. That's something that will always hang over the head of Super 8 filmmakers. I hope that K-40 is the last to go.

Adam

[matt5791]

Astro recently reported:

viewtopic.php?t=5336&postdays=0&postord ... 081dba4006

that ultimately K40 will be discontinued. However I think that this will be a long way off.

(Astro has very good contacts at Kodak)

Matt

[Godzilla]

I can see Kodak replacing K-40 with K-64 someday. Just about everyone uses K-40 in daylight anyway, so it's not a big deal to go to a daylight balanced stock. Anyone who shoots super 8 in this day and age would be smart enough to know not to use the in-camera 85 filter.