Ektachrome soon to be no more...
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Interesting complaints and compliments in this thread.
If 100D is what we get this would mean would would finally get a daylight
balanced stock! Quite a positive IMHO.
But I do agree that the old stock is handy for the light challenged. In the
one and only reel that I shot of it. It was all indoors and I put 100 Watt
bulbs in all practical lights in the apartment (with some daylight streaming
in). For the most part I was using about 400 watts and the exposure was
clear and even. But if it goes I can just buy some cheap 500 watt work
lights for $25 each.
If 100D is what we get this would mean would would finally get a daylight
balanced stock! Quite a positive IMHO.
But I do agree that the old stock is handy for the light challenged. In the
one and only reel that I shot of it. It was all indoors and I put 100 Watt
bulbs in all practical lights in the apartment (with some daylight streaming
in). For the most part I was using about 400 watts and the exposure was
clear and even. But if it goes I can just buy some cheap 500 watt work
lights for $25 each.
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I have some Elitechrome 200ASA in my still camera right now!Carlos 8mm wrote:Till one or two years ago, Kodak sells a Slide film stock from the Elite Chrome series (I think). This E-6 processing reversal film was an ISO 160 tunsgten balanced stock with a RMS granularity of 13 (less than the old Ekt 160T).
Perhaphs it could be a good replacement for Ekt 125T :roll:
Carlos

Process - E6
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Avatar: Kenneth Moore (left) with producers (centre) discussing forthcoming film to be financed by my grandfather (right) C.1962
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One big bonus of switching to an E-6 process film would be an enterprising shooter such as a Paul Cotto or a Roger Evans could come up with a home Super-8 processing machine that offers much better results than tank processing.
This probably wouldn't be a machine for everyone, but something more along the lines of the Workprinter, where a few dedicated folks could invest in the equipment and create a new cottage industry. E-6 chemicals don't have the longest lifespan, so a certain economy of scale would be necessary to make home processing at this level a reality.
This probably wouldn't be a machine for everyone, but something more along the lines of the Workprinter, where a few dedicated folks could invest in the equipment and create a new cottage industry. E-6 chemicals don't have the longest lifespan, so a certain economy of scale would be necessary to make home processing at this level a reality.
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E-6 processing reversal stocks will allow the opening of more S8 labs worldwide.
But there´s something that worries me. Usually when an old film stock is discontinued, certain time before appears a new film stock that will replace it. In the case of Ekt 125T, Kodak has still not announced the release of a new medium-high speed tungsten-balanced reversal film stock.
Maybe Kodak´s new policy is "Wanna shoot indoors? Then shoot with color negative stocks!" :?
Carlos
But there´s something that worries me. Usually when an old film stock is discontinued, certain time before appears a new film stock that will replace it. In the case of Ekt 125T, Kodak has still not announced the release of a new medium-high speed tungsten-balanced reversal film stock.
Maybe Kodak´s new policy is "Wanna shoot indoors? Then shoot with color negative stocks!" :?
Carlos
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Shooting indoors with the current colour reversal stocks requirs so much additional lighting to render quality results with your lens set at a sensible aperture. If you need to hire this lighting then you could probably save by using one of the neg stocks and hire less lights.Carlos 8mm wrote: Maybe Kodak´s new policy is "Wanna shoot indoors? Then shoot with color negative stocks!" :?
Carlos
Some people may disagree here but this has been my experience.
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phantasy
That is a nice phantasy where others at their own risc make machines, buy and use them to supply processing service to unknown numbers of unknown customers.Roget wrote:One big bonus of switching to an E-6 process film would be an enterprising shooter such as a Paul Cotto or a Roger Evans could come up with a home Super-8 processing machine that offers much better results than tank processing.
This probably wouldn't be a machine for everyone, but something more along the lines of the Workprinter, where a few dedicated folks could invest in the equipment and create a new cottage industry. E-6 chemicals don't have the longest lifespan, so a certain economy of scale would be necessary to make home processing at this level a reality.
Kind regards,
André
André
What is wrong with tank processing? You can achieve results as good as Kodak's old E160 processing service with the Lomo tank - and if you dry the film carefully with a hair dryer it is possible to go from camera to projector in under three hours.Roget wrote:a home Super-8 processing machine that offers much better results than tank processing.
Any problems with tank processing are down to the user, as fully professional results are certainly obtainable.
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Ektachrome soon to be no more
Actually, I would not mind if Ektachrome was replaced with Elitechrome. I had great experience with 12 rolls ASA200 of 35mm slide film when I documented some stuff on a trip to the Smithsonian Air and Space museum. Most of my stills were under existing light. My camera is an RCA point and shoot with and optional panorama shutter setting. Really nothing special. But exeptional results. Uhhmm, this was about 4 years ago this April. The slides havent faded any, great color and contrast even people and things in shadows came out pretty clearly. I am still impressed, I was scared when I turned the flash off so I wouldnt get a display case glare, but on the whole the slides are wonderful. And, many great outdoor slides as well. Great color.
Cheers,
Jordan
Cheers,
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Its Official
I got an official reply from Kodak today saying that all reversal Ektachrome stocks are being discontinued by the end of 2004. environmental reasons, low sales ect. so there's no budget to fix the environmental aspect. but if sales are low, than it must not be too detramental to the environment. meanwhile ther's a meth lab popping up somewhere every five minutes.
I heard the 5285 is a very bright and colorful film, aimed at music videos. there's a film coming out this week with Denzel Washington that was entirely shot on 5285. i'd love to use it for concerts but whether it will be available in Super 8, no one seems to know yet. i guess we'll just be patient and see what happens.
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Nigel, with all due respect, I think what you are saying is selfish and shallow. Maybe you have money to burn on expensive software, $5000 computers, pro lighting kits, and rank transfers, but for all of us that don't that kind of money, 5285 is no alternative. It is a 40 speed film in tungsten light. I don't think that all the 200-watt lightbulbs in the world could light a scene with such a slow film. And there's no fucking way that a 100 speed film is going to be finer-grained than a 40 speed film like Kodachrome. With regard to your statement "modern stocks for the modern age....": I have heard similar lines of bullshit in ads for digital cameras and camera phones, and this same basic idea was probably used when video cameras first came out. If we take the last twenty years as an example, things have gone downhill in terms of quality. Why not just shoot video if you don't care about a 100+ year old "antiquated" technology? Long live Kodachrome. I don't want my footage to fade. . . I guess I'll just have to shoot outdoors from now onNigel wrote:I say bring it on!!!! I am glad that Kodak is updating their line. Kill 7240--Kill K40. Lets get the 5285--Lets get 5217--Modern stocks for the modern age....
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