Global Trekkers=Super8

[Nigel]

Not having a TV I am often behind the curve when it comes to shows so pardon me if this is an old topic.

I was at a friend's house the other day and as I was flipping through the channels I saw what appeared to be S8 flash across the screen. So I stayed tuned and sure enough more and more and more S8 came and went.

It was all part of this TV show called Global Trekkers. It is broadcast in the USA by PBS and seems to be British in origin.

Good Luck

[woods01]

I think I have seen that show too and thought the same thing. Is that
the show with the female host with the big rack?

[calgodot]

Yeah, this has been dicussed before, but so what?

Globe Trekker is indeed a UK show (I think it's called "Lonely Planet" outside the US). Last year I corresponded with a PA and producer fromthe show. They do incorporate a lot of Super8 footage (and some 16mm), shot with a few different cameras. The host is sometimes given a camera to get his/her own footage. (That Ian chap is my favorite. I'd like to have a bloke like that as a chum.) I never got any details about film stocks they use (but I can tell its a lot of K40) or even what possessed them to do this.

I've used that show to point out to others (non-film people) the obvious differences in color between film and video. It's amazing how a video shot of some scene will merely look cool, while S8 footage of the same scene will be breathtaking. There was one scene in a market someplace: the video colors were muted, the skin tones of the people almost waxen and very similar. Then they cut to the S8 footage, and it looked like the markets in my dreams.

[danpuddick]

Globe Trecker is on nearly everyday.. here on a discovery sampler channel...

...I like almost everything about it....

the traveling... man I'm jealous of that job... paid for going to Mongolia - Fantastic!

the bits of S8.... I think it really imporoves such a show like calgodot said, the main footage shot on DV can be really drained of colour... and the bits of super8 cut really feel so different... like tiny bits of actually being there... ´Just adding a bit of colour makes the whole thing a lot more watchable........ whaching a who doc. DV is just depressing!
I watched one edition where the girl 'with the big rack' was in micronesia and she was on camera filming with a canon 814 or 1014 one of those type ones (see my ignorance!)

and yeah the girls! I watched the repeat of the mainland greece one just to see her again... sorry to reveal all my sad secrets! something has to keep me sane (ish) up here

seeing that comment about 'big rack' (nothing wrong with that IMO btw) made me think, why are no women ever posting here...... do NO women have an interest in S8?

[mattias]

is that "världsvandrare"? must be since it's close to a direct translation. i haven't seen it but according to the paper there's a show with that name on every day on the "discovery mix" channel. gotta try and catch it tomorrow...

/matt

[mattias]

seeing that comment about 'big rack' (nothing wrong with that IMO btw) made me think, why are no women ever posting here

i don't think there's anything wrong with it either, but it's definitely part of the answer to your question. male super 8 shooters are judged by how good their films are and how much they know about setting the correct exposure. women have big racks. go figure.

/matt

[danpuddick]

or maybe were just abunch of geeks and don't want to admit it! :lol:


yep that's the one.. I think it comes on a couple of times a day but once at 1500. That Discovery mix is annoying though... somtimes cutting off half way through an interesting show!

[bmarksb]

I have seen this program. I believe the one you are talking about takes place in veitnam. The super 8 footage was excellent and shows how well it can be used as television medium. It certainly made me happy to own a few cameras
B.M.

[Nick]

I've seen a bunch of these videos on the travel channel and i've seen them on video at a local rental place (Vulcan Video - for those of you in Austin, TX.). I think almost everyone contains S8mm footage and some of the S8mm on the New York show has synch sound. I only remember one where I thought there was 16mm included(the one on the SouthWest).

This show is also listed here:
http://www.filmshooting.com/community/f ... vprogs.php

It mentioned the show is shot on K40 and Vision 200.

Cheers,
N

[calgodot]

and yeah the girls! I watched the repeat of the mainland greece one just to see her again... sorry to reveal all my sad secrets! something has to keep me sane (ish) up here

Each of the hosts has his/her own fan following. Some of the women who host the show have drawn all sorts of comments on the show's message boards.

seeing that comment about 'big rack' (nothing wrong with that IMO btw) made me think, why are no women ever posting here...... do NO women have an interest in S8?

Certainly there are women who are interested in Super8 filmmaking. Their apparent absence (they may be lurking, after all) in this forum is nothing unusual. There's no strong female presence on any filmmaking forum I've seen. The reasons as to "why" are exceedingly complex and certainly cannot be reduced to "sexism."

Of course, any woman who was interested might be put off by seeing a woman referenced only by a body part. More of them would be offended that grown adult women were referred to as "girls." I don't think most men understand either of these things. Hardly anyone ever refers to an adult male as a "boy," and when it happens it is often considered an insult. (I recall an incident on this very board where someone called a grown man a boy, and that grown man took offense.)

I'd say the first biggest issue to address when pondering the dirth of women in this field is to look at where women have been in the past. Historically, women have not been encouraged to express themselves as individuals. Men and women have been together for millenia, yet it is only in the 20th century that a large number of women began to express themselves artistically. Centuries of sexual and economic opression kept women out of the creative circles. They are only recently beginning to join them, and even then are often the most oppressed members in gender-mixed artistic circles. This is why women so often form "arts groups for women only," because in a mixed gender group men generally dominate and lead (something programmed into both genders, and therefore so accpetable as to seem "normal"). While men in leadership positions do not necessarily equal oppression, it does subly promote the idea that women serve men. It also serves to reduce the number of women in leadership in larger groups (like the Academy) because, as we all know, leaders do not emerge full formed from the mud, but from years of experience leading smaller groups of people.

So while I don't think the subtle sexism of this board (which is no different than the subtle sexism that exists everywhere) is the reason there are no women posting frequently here, I do not think such methods of referencing women would encourage any of them to participate.

[heloise]

Quite right Calgodot...

I am female, shoot super8, lurk and occasionally post on this site.

This is the only internet forum I look at and find most of it hugely informative and helpful but comments such as 'big rack' do smack somewhat of sad sex-starved cybernerds.

[danpuddick]

sex starved maybe ....but cyber geek :oops:

I meant that there's nothing wrong with having a 'big rack'..( not nothing wrong wit the comment....ooopps)..ie it doesn't detract from the great show... I thought it was a rather bizarre comment to make really as the topic was about the filming... ....hence my use of the 'inverted commas ' I didn't think people really said that... I suppose I did't make it any better for myself by singing the praises of the presenters.... but I honestly don't go around saying things like that about girls...

...not that I would tell people they are wrong for saying what ever they want...

More impportantly I do often describe young women as girls (as I just did)...but so does my girlfriend..... I'd never thought about it and it does sound rather patronising... hhmmmm I call myself a boy (I'm 23) but I don't know if i'd like people saying that about me.....

If I were a woman I would probably avoid discussing some technical things with groups of men since often, guys try and dum everything down for women which must be frustrating if they know what they're up to.....

....also frustrating for men too is when there's a load of guy talking about something technical, you can get a load of jargon rather than a straight answer... even to a simple question.... or worse... the 'you don't want to do that you want to do this instead' comment.... luckily this place is good for the straight answers to the simple Qs which I have a lot of.


hhhhhhm didnt mean to cause offence

[tim.callaghan]

digging deeper :roll:

Tim

[calgodot]

I don't mean to chastise anyone, or tell them they are "wrong" in what they say. I'm mostly repeating what I've had women tell me for many years. Certainly I have no special insight into what makes a woman tick (I am not Tiresias).

I don't think much sexist behavior from men these days is purposefully misogynistic. Most of it stems from the extreme discomfort that most men feel around women. I used to make bad dentist jokes with my dentist to ease the anxiety (he had a great sense of humor).

For example, I don't think men mean to insult when they refer to grown women as "girls." And I think the fact that some women are not bothered by this shows that these women understand it is not meant to be offensive.

I do think that in certain fields (like filmmaking) the women invovled do face more sexism than is "ordinary." I cannot tell you how many times I've heard someone say "a girl can't do that" on a film set. Not just about lifting a 75-pound box of crap or something either. People in Hollywood think that women make better script supervisors than men because "women are trained to notice insignificant details." The AP who told me this went off on a rant about how his wife always notices "little annoying shit." I told him to keep his marriage problems at home with his secret bondag gear and was fired on the spot.

It will help us all if we men, who still as a gender hold the vast majority of power and wealth in the world, simply started thinking before we spoke. There's really nothing "right" or "wrong" about sexist speech - it's just rude. If you (like me) want to see more women in filmmaking (especially behind the camera), then do nothing to discourage and everything to encourage it.

[woods01]

:roll: As the writer of the 'rack' comment henceforth to be known only as the
'comment'. I wrote it knowing full well that it would ineveitably lead to
a discussion like this and I will make no apologies.

Identifing unfamilar people really comes down to their bodies. They're
the girl with the ____, the fat chick, the skinny guy or the mullet head.
How else do you describe a stranger whos name you don't know?

I remembered a new show with S8 but didn't think much of it. I only
recalled the film shots and that the host had a distinguishing body. In a
quick effective comment on what the host looked like I confirmed that
not only was it the same show & host but also that everyone agrees that
the host is a packin'