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garrett smith's eumig nautica ready for repair.

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hello,

sometime back i had told another member of this site who had a eumig camera that was not working, that i would take a look at it and see if i could possibly repair it for him. and i offered to do it for free, he need only pay shipping. well, he ended up shipping it to my mother's house in the states, and she included in my weekly shipment last week bound to me here in cabo. so the camera is here, and i will start tinkering with it this week, perhaps next, and will post photos of the process accoridngly.

without taking the camera apart, i did install two new aa batteries that garrett included in the package. the inside of the lens is off its mount/track, as it is visibly loose and moving around inside. also, the shutter is not working. i beleive the entire assembly inside has either been broken, or jolted loose from its mounts, or both. either way, i would say the camera had a good thump at one point. other then that, it is in seemingly good condition. if i get it fixed, garrett's going to have to send someone to collect it, as i probably will not want to part with it, as my own nautica is in need of a friend<jk, i'll let her go without a fight>. so, stay tuned for step by step instructions on how to take apart a eumig nautica in the days and weeks to come right here on s8mm!!

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ok, finally figured out how to take this damn camera apart ... a service manual would have helped. let me tell you, these things are much differant inside then these other cameras i have been messing with. so here are some pictures, i will report the prolems once i have them identified.

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ok ... i found the main problem ... a broken orange part. this camera has a ton of orange parts. it has the traditional disc type shutter, but flat, no angle/degree to it. the viewfinder assembly does not have a tube ... instead, stratigically placed mirrors bouncing light from all sides and anges in this camera ... i'm surprised any light makes it to the dioptre/eyepiece. the motor is running fine. the other problem was the lens. a set piece had come out of its groove, which would indicate this camera was either dropped or had some hard impact of sorts ... really hard impact. it much have been in a ag when it was damaged, because the outside does not shows signs of anything happening to it. this camera is waterproof, so its design is rather tricky. in the process of figuring out how to dissassele it, i only sacrificed one little part/area, which looked like a plug covering a set screw ... ut it ended up being nothing. i had to dig it out, so that little plastice piece is 40 little plastic pieces now. however, no need to fear, i have liquid plastic, and will ... da da ... fill it in with sime orange colored plastic and no one will know the differance.

i will attempt to figure out where this little broken piece goes. oh, one more thing ... when you messed around with it, or whoever had it before you, because the motor mount was loose, the gears are a little stripped because of attempts at testing it or turnign the power on. i will file them down and clean them up as best as i can. i should have another 5 hours to go and be done with it.

gs, it should e ready to ship back to you this week sometime, perhaps next week depending on my schedule and ability to work on it. let me know.

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OMG it's in pieces! :D

Seriously, you rock Eric, thanks a ton!

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ok, so i now have some time to sit down and work on these cameras. regarding your camera, there are 2 main problems with it. one problem is one of the 2 support rods that attach the front lens assembly to the body was/is broken. this is why it was loose inside. in order for this to be fixed, i will need to literally make a new part out of plastic. i will take the other rod and make a small rubber mold. i will then pour liquid plastic into the mold and make anothor part. HOWEVER, this part is not one that can be unscrwed from the casing. so, i will have to epoxy it to the existing location after first grinding out the remaining broken piece.

i will snap some photos tomorrow and post them so you know what i am talking about. but once i get busy on it, it should take me about 6-10 hours to fix and put back together. good thing my hourly rate is only $00.00, otherwise it would have been easier to purchase another one :)

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i have not forgot about you or this camera ... it has been sitting in front of me every day waiting it's place in line. it amazingly survived the storm that blew the roof off this palapa and took have of the rooms contents with it. it got jammed inbetween a couple of large 6 volt solar batteries ... so you lucked out, or i lucked out.

anyways, as mentioned, the problems with this camera are mechincal .. .and now that i have plastics and rubbers in liquid form, as well as some machning capabilities now .. i will get to making the replaceent part, as the only other way would be to purchase another nautica ... which would defeat the purpose. so again, i have not forgot about you or the camera, and will most certainly get to it once i retrun from my vacation towards the middle of the month. it now sits directly in front of me, in line, cued up for repair.

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Hey Eric, good to hear you came out of the storm ok.

That's amazing that the camera came out of the storm unharmed and not buried in the sand someplace.

Again, thanks a ton!
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well, the storm hit in the middle of the night ... and so i had a shit ton to contend with considering i have a 4-plex under construction and my own house under contstruction ... and on my own house the majority of the roog is not yet complete, so water completely melted interior walls that were made of adobe block with mud plaster on top of them ... the exterior adobe blocks were all sealed and coated, so not much damage there. i had moved all of my office/workshop to a seperate 6x6 meter palapa room last month, and i did so because it had a roof. but because it was a pitched roof made of bamboo and palm leaves, and because i had not yet finished placing the protective netting on top of it, the leaves started peeling off one at a time as winds started to pass 70 and 80mph ... and when we were in the path of the arms of te hurrican the winds basically had there way with everything ... walls made of block ... thick solid stone block were bending to the wind. so i was frantically working in the middle of the night with water blowing sideways and feeling like little bee bee shots on the skin to cover wit plastic and tape off what i could and to tuck things and move things into the part of our house that was safe ... but heck, just walking outside between the palapa and the house was tuff ... very tuff. some of the things that actually blew up and out of the palapa were kind of amazing ... i have a 60 pound suitcase blow up and out, whereas i have a small 1 pound plastic container stay inside. and because i literally have 20 or so cameras taken apart, i have all kinds of little containers with small parts from the cameras spead about the work area ... and needless to say, much of those did not survive ... but your camera bin did amazingly enoungh. its funny, i keep finding things every day somewhere on the property. like easter, except the payoff is not as good. anyways, i am building a studio for myself, and it will have steel rafters for the ceiling and cement ontop of that .. plus it has an underground darkroom area that we will use as a shelter of sorts for the following years hurricanes ... as we get them in sept. and oct. every year. but what really reaks havic is the flooding that takes place during the hurricane, and the weeks after ... truly an amzing force of nature these type of storms. we had two eaded our way up and until yesterday ... one on each side of us a few hundred miles away ... remarkably they each turned back from where they came from. thank goodness because my wife and i are going on vacation tomorrow and my inlaws are going to be here wathcing the kids and the property while we are gone ... and at this point, we have not rebuilt near enough to weather another storm effectively ... so if one does hit while we are gone, we will pretty much be screwed unless the in-laws bust their asses like we did to safe things and risk personal injury or worse.

anyhow, upon my return i will fabricate that plastic rod and then machine it to fit precisely and then will thread a hole on the one side and it should serve to suport the assembly onto the body as it origionally did. and naturally, a nautica referance guide will come of it(simple camera compared to some of the others i have tackled lately).

until then, dont hold your breat, but rest assured none the less.

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Eric,

I would be interested in seeing a schematic for the nautica. I just received one in the mail today that is damaged. The positive terminal connection was severed, from corrosion. I mainly need to know, how to open it up and where the battery solder points are on the circuitboard. Also the spring loaded cartridge holder does not lock, so the cartridge doesn't stay in its place.

By the way, this camera was has a sticker that says 24 bilder/ sec. (24 frames /sec) It also has another sticker that says:

Hans Schukraft
Schmallfilm-Nauticatechnik
Frieberger, 74
7000 Stuttgart 50
tel.: 0711 / 59 23 91

I doubt this address is good anymore. But I will be glad to take any pictures of the inside of mine to try and figure out what the modification was.
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Since this is such incredibly excellent material, I was wondering if it would be alright to copy the code/text/pictures and post it on my website on my nautica page - I'll give credit if desired, no problem. Just a thought. No worries either way - let me know.

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Now I've taken it apart. I think it has seen better days. It has a little rust, and the solder joints for both the positive and the ground wires are severed from battery corrosion. I have the buy a new battery case and try to re-solder that to the circuit boad and see if that gets it going. (although I'll need to figure out where the positive connects) If anything else is wrong, I think I will need a service manual. Also I would like to get to the bottom of this 24 f.p.s. (this is an upgrade I wanted to get on this camera anyways and if i could figure it out, that would be great)
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hi,

eric, it is allways fascinating to read your metiulous, funny and very informative posts. just wondering if you had a chance to shoot something in the middle of the storm that you could share with us.

un saludo,

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teadub wrote:Now I've taken it apart. I think it has seen better days. It has a little rust, and the solder joints for both the positive and the ground wires are severed from battery corrosion. I have the buy a new battery case and try to re-solder that to the circuit boad and see if that gets it going. (although I'll need to figure out where the positive connects) If anything else is wrong, I think I will need a service manual. Also I would like to get to the bottom of this 24 f.p.s. (this is an upgrade I wanted to get on this camera anyways and if i could figure it out, that would be great)
wow ... you got into the camera quickly ... for some reason it took me about 4 or 5 hours to figure it out ... was not very obvious to me how ot open it. but once opened, i learned quaickly it is a simply by design camera with not many frills inside.

regarding the two leads ... to make it simple, looking into the film bay door, the battery inserts to the left rear. there is a top and bottom terminal, that each have leads that connect to the little circuit board on the bottom side of the bay. of all the resistors on that little circuit board, the largest one has a lead directly to the front of that resistor(using the resistor only for visual reference, the lead has nothing to do with the resistor other then location). this lead goes to the BOTTOM terminal of the battery compartment. the other lead is located net to the little screw that attaches the circuit board to the chassis, and that lead goes to the TOP terminal in the battery compartment area. if you have not done so already, you will need ot remove the plate and the shutter assembly plate directly behind it to access the circuit board.

sadly, all of my dissassembly notes got water damaged or blew away during the hurricane last month. so if you are taking your camera apart, and if you have a digital camera, i would apreciate a few photos that show the 8 wires/leads that move from the chassis/body to the front lens and motor asembly ... i had to dissconnect a few of those when taking it apart and my notes that indicated what went where are now toast ... so to forgoe hours of testing/trial and error, some simply macro photos would be nice and certianly apreciated.

i want to get this camera out of my hair ... its been sitting on my desk forever now and i am sure garret would not mind having it back at this point. this particular cameras was dropped or something, and had physical faults/damage and not electronic or decomposing faults. so that was nice, but the one support rod that holds the front assembly ont othe body is made of copper and is form fitted to the plastic lens covering piece. so in order for me to repair it, i have to remove the light meter prism, use a dremel with a cutting wheel, cut the protruding plastic to a clean and level position allows the counter sunk remaining copper rod to be accessable, and then using a a small drill bit, drill a hole, use a threading bit to thread the hole, and then take a plastic formed piece from a mold of the original broken piece, and weld a small piece on the end with a threaded bolt to make up for the measure that was broken off and subsiqently cut off, and then screw it in and hope it is strong enough. seeing as how the other rods are glued or heat set into the plastic, i suppose once i have made usre it is straight and aligns correcrly with the body, i could put some of that engine block weld stuff that seems to hold anything ... just as a precaution.

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Pepe wrote:hi,

eric, it is allways fascinating to read your metiulous, funny and very informative posts. just wondering if you had a chance to shoot something in the middle of the storm that you could share with us.

un saludo,

p.pe
you are one of only a .few ... well, i beleive you are the 'only' one that actually finds any posative response from my writings ;)

i was not able to shoot any of the actual hurricane ... it came at 2 am and by the next morning i was exhausted from keeping water from ruining eveything(wife and i with pales and buckets and brooms getting water our of our two story home that was a yet to be completed roof on it, hence all the water entering the house and flooding. my palapa on the other hand, which i recently moved my office and workshop into did not stand a chance ... pretty much anything that was not build of cement on the roof blew off. most all of the palapa roofs in town did not survive ... i am sure the palapa roofing business here in town is booming at this point! and the really strange part of this storm, was it was only a catagory 1 for most of the time, and it was catagory 2 for a few hours ... but the hurricane we had a couple years back was a 3 and did not cause near the amount of damage ... and the catagory 4 we had several years ago did indeed cause a ton of damage, but did not seem any worse then this one. two years ago we did not have bridges between cabo and san jose, and so the arroyos would turn into raging rivers for weeks on end, and no one could cross them. so everyone caught inbetween the dozen or so washes could not leave their little strip ... an island of sorts that ran from the ocean to the mountains, with raging rivers on either side. this year that did not happen because of all the new bridges ... and thank goodness for that.

regarding soem film footage ... i have thousands of feet of processed film here that did not get damaged ... well, it is sticking together because it got moist, but what i meant ot say it did not get blown or washed away. and a new costco opened today in cabo, which was a real treat seeing as how we only got our first 'real' type grocery store only 2 months earlier ... prior to that one would have to shop at a mini-super ... which are like the mexican equivilant to 7-11 or circle k for dried goods and dairy. meat and veggies being purchased at the stands and various markets. but now cabo is growing up and we have a super sized grocery store, and now today a costco. i was able to purchase a scanner today for a hundred bucks that has a built in negative/slide carraige, so now i can at least scan some of my film footage. but i am running into some problems ... it is a 1200dpi scanner, and the setting allow me to scan up to 9600 lines of resultion. i have not been able to find the threshold point of where the image does not realize gain but where the file size does. what would be a good lpi for 8 and 16mm film? anyone know? its amazing when you live in a place that literally has no resourses readily available how popular a store like costco becomes ... the entire town was a t costco today ... no shitten you! everyone was there ... kind of comical ... some of the older mexican ladies actually put on their finest cloths and made a day of it.

anyway, i am sure hoping by next month i am capable of shooting film, processing it, and digitizing it, and editing it, and posting it here and other places online ... it is truly frustrating not having everything you need to do such a thing ... very frustrating creatively and artistically ... because you naturally want ot share you work with others so they can see it so you can at least know what other people think of it, hopefully for a nice confidence shot in the arm ... if you know what i mean.

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I know these pictures are not very macro, but the is as small as my digital camera can shoot. As far as the wires from the lens compartment, If you are looking at the camera, the same way the picture is, I believe their order is :

1st row Blue / Red / White / 2nd Blue / Green / Black
2nd row Yellow / Grey

But don't take my word on it. handling the board has severed both the red and the grey solder joints.
http://www.8mm.filmshooting.com/scripts ... cainsides1

Using an continuity meter I figured out the positive terminal joint was located right under the screw in the lower right hand corner of the board.

Do take into account, my camera is modified. So my information may not coincide with anyone elses.

Here are a couple other pictures for reference. So you can see what kind of condition it is in. You can also see the 24 fps sticker.

http://www.8mm.filmshooting.com/scripts ... cainsides2
http://www.8mm.filmshooting.com/scripts ... cainsides3

P.S. when I try to use the "img" feature it just pops up with a little square with a question mark in it. what am i doing wrong?
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