Super8 film from Jailbreak.se

YouTube · Post by **Andreas Wideroe** » Tue Sep 16, 2003 1:22 pm

http://www.jailbreak.se/main.asp?stripe=22&film=vf#

I think it's shot with Vision 200T - and I know they used the pressureplate. Looks pretty good!!

Click the Windows Media icon to view the film.

Andreas

Post by **Petteri** » Tue Sep 16, 2003 1:42 pm

I hate those embedded movies in web pages, escpecially mpg ones

Here is direct link

http://www.jailbreak.se/movies/dogshow.mpg

Petteri

Post by **paul** » Tue Sep 16, 2003 2:22 pm

yes it really looks good, hardly can see any grain...

second link works

Santo · Post by **Santo** » Tue Sep 16, 2003 4:09 pm

this piece must look great in a higher res. format. I'd imagine it would appear virtually grain-less in PAL Avi (on a monitor, anyways).

mostly though i'm impressed by how rock-steady the image is.

there's that pressure plate thing helping again, i guess. does anybody sell those things in North America?

i'll have to see how the tests come back with my new Nizos to see if i'll need one. my Canon 814 sure does if I'm looking for close to 16mm steadiness like in this clip.

BTW, what I'd really like to know is what camera was used here for such good sharpness? Very curious about that.

Post by **paul** » Tue Sep 16, 2003 4:18 pm

the camera used was a canon 1014, if I am right.

As far as I know these pressure plates are only sold in Europe. Perhaps John Schwind in the US sells them too.

Paul

Post by **teadub** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 7:06 am

wow, that looks super good. Is it a commersial for some sort of product?

Website · Post by **Andersens Tears** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 10:21 am

That looks fantastic.......

... I don't read the VF, so I take the tag line 'More Colourful than ever' (please excuse poor translation) to mean the film stock (in my eyes)

... just proves even more to me how fantastic a short movie can look on super8.......

'Tears

Post by **mattias** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 12:49 pm

Santo wrote:I'd imagine it would appear virtually grain-less in PAL Avi.

well, since you can actually clearly see the grain in this small version i'm pretty sure there's lots and lots of it at pal resolution. properly transferred k40 scaled down to this size is completely grainless. most people forget that all footage actually improves quite a lot in sharpness and grain when scaled down.

(i also thought the clip looked great though)

/matt

Santo · Post by **Santo** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:34 pm

The more obvious pixels present in a low res format like this make it appear more grainy than it actually would be in AVI. That's all I'm saying.

don't make me do an emj on you, man!

Post by **Ultrazero** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 2:45 pm

i'll just add my two cents in and say that that really does look fantastic!

Post by **mattias** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 4:41 pm

Santo wrote:The more obvious pixels present in a low res format like this make it appear more grainy than it actually would be in AVI.

not true -- it's the other way around, i promise. i'm guessing by grainy you might mean something other than the common meaning in a filmmaking context which is "the amount of film grain visible"? i've heard "laymen" use the word grainy for a lot of things ranging from unsharp through noisy to blocky, but i'd suggest we stick to the "correct" meaning since this is after all a film forum... ;-)

/matt

Post by **Alpha60** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 5:35 pm

I mailed Jailbreak and asked them and the clip was shot on K40 using the pressure plate and scanned by filming it with a videocamera. ( They tried a cheap scan at Karlstad Film to Video but the result wasn't good enough.) I've mailed them again and asked about more details about the "scan".

Color correction in Adobe After effects.

Here's a making of shot if someone can id the camera:

Santo · Post by **Santo** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 5:42 pm

that's a Canon 1014 Electronic

So that's K-40. Interesting. I knew it was too grainy to be Vision 200T.

Post by **mattias** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 5:48 pm

Santo wrote:So that's K-40. Interesting. I knew it was too grainy to be Vision 200T.

i'm not sure what that smiley means exactly, but you do know that vision 200t is grainier than k40, right?

/matt

Santo · Post by **Santo** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 7:07 pm

that's a wink at all the K-40 pushers (over Vision) who seem to populate this site. yeah, I'm well aware of the grain difference.