AGFA2 16mm Print & Optical Sound Transfer

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I went ahead and downloaded the new free optical sound app that goes with the Retro-Universal. Here's a scan done on a pretyy decent AGFA2 color print. AGFA2 didn't turn red like a lot of others. I think the sound came out pretty well, and holds sync all the way through. Opens up a whole new can of beans for old 16mm sound prints. check it out.
https://vimeo.com/190741990

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I really like that film! Is it a former library film?

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Got another question. I guess this film must have serious sprocket hole damage because it jumps once in a while. But I thought damaged sprocket holes didn't matter on that kind of scanner? By the way, I took a look at your "People on the Move" film too, You've got a nice collection!

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Thanks- I have a few old educational reels from thrift stores and Ebay. They are either from public libraries or schools from the days before VCR's. I studied urban planning in high school, and have paid close attention to changing urban dynamics for the last 30 yrs, so this film is right up my ally.. an interesting perspective compared to today's world of urban gentrification, and now the poor getting run back out of our cities 40 years later.

The frame jumps I believe are a result of the clear emulsion and scanner sensors. Print film is a little trickier to scan than negative or reversal films. I adjusted the sensors the best I could. Since actual projection of these films are never perfect either, I won't sweat it too much.

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Thanks- I have a few old educational reels from thrift stores and Ebay. They are either from public libraries or schools from the days before VCR's. I studied urban planning in high school, and have paid close attention to changing urban dynamics for the last 30 yrs, so this film is right up my ally.. an interesting perspective compared to today's world of urban gentrification, and now the poor getting run back out of our cities 40 years later.

The frame jumps I believe are a result of the clear emulsion and scanner sensors. Print film is a little trickier to scan than negative or reversal films. I adjusted the sensors the best I could. Since actual projection of these films are never perfect either, I won't sweat it too much.

That's a great find! The whole cycle of a place going from wealthy neighborhood to ghetto back to wealthy neighborhood again fascinates me! I've got a 16mm film myself with a small part about the ghetto but the first minute or 2 is missing so I don't even know what the title is. Do these 2 films of yours have a red tint that your scanner corrected for? I think I know what you mean about the sensors, it's looking through the film and a piece of dirt or lettering tricks it into thinking that's the sprocket hole? If you paid what I think you paid for that scanner then please, get the guys who made it to help you out with that problem! You should be getting better quality than that for what you paid!

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The scan could probably be less jumpy, i'm going to try doing a few things differently next time. But like I was saying, the unit is best for neg or reversal which is a lot less tricky to dial in. The "People on the Move" (1972) film was pretty red, I did some color correction in Vegas14. The "Changing City" film (1973) didn't have any color shift, and only did some mild balancing. I guess that's the beauty of AGFA2 print stock, it holds up over time better than most.

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Yeah, so you've got a big collection of 16mm you have not scanned yet? I've also got an Encyclopedia Brittanica film called "A COUGAR AND HER CUBS". It has little if any color fade and is truly a treat to watch! How do you know it's Agfa2 print? Does it say so on the outer edge throughout the film? Hope you're able to get that scanner to be a lot less jumpy. I've used this stuff called "Filmguard" which has done a very good job getting rid of scratches like the ones in those films. Of course it won't be able to do anything about the green or blue scratches though...