Elmo 1012 filter switch
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Elmo 1012 filter switch
I have an Elmo 1012 with a missing filter switch. Does anyone have a switch assembly from a broken camera or any idea how to rig something to be able to switch the 85 filter in and out of place?
Marty Hamrick
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Windsor, Ontario
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Windsor, Ontario
Re: Elmo 1012 filter switch
I got your email and just happened to see your post here, so I'll be lazy and just reply here....
Are you saying that the switch just fell off of the side of the camera? Or was someone monkeying around with the insides and some camera guts have vanished? If the latter, you'll probably need to find a parts camera. But if you're in the former category, you should be able to rig something up:
Look at the hole in the side of the camera where that switch used to be: do you see a metal tab or c-shaped claw just beneath the body shell? That is the mechanical interlock for the filter-pull the switch, it hits the metal tab which is part of a bigger lever, and the lever pulls the filter aside. So all you need to make is a switch with a tab that faces down into the camera that engages and pulls the lever. Oh, and it would probably nice if the thing actually stayed on the side of the camera too...for that you'll need to mount a leaf spring type of metal behind the switch that holds it to the camera body and is tight enough to hold the switch in the position you set it in. These parts can be made out of just about any material that you want them to be, and the tolerances can be pretty rough and it should still work okay. I can't think of where you coud buy an appropriate switch-although some of the ones from tubesandmore.com may come close.
NOW there may be a problem in that the leaf spring on the switch may have been something more-some of them were made of copper and had fingers on them that extended down to the circuit board. These in turn actuated two different exposure modes-one type of meter reading when the filter is on, and another when the filter is off. Your meter won't work if this piece is missing. If it is, you may have to jump some contacts together and get it working in one mode and then manually meter from there between filter switching. But just hope that you won't have to do that.
Are you saying that the switch just fell off of the side of the camera? Or was someone monkeying around with the insides and some camera guts have vanished? If the latter, you'll probably need to find a parts camera. But if you're in the former category, you should be able to rig something up:
Look at the hole in the side of the camera where that switch used to be: do you see a metal tab or c-shaped claw just beneath the body shell? That is the mechanical interlock for the filter-pull the switch, it hits the metal tab which is part of a bigger lever, and the lever pulls the filter aside. So all you need to make is a switch with a tab that faces down into the camera that engages and pulls the lever. Oh, and it would probably nice if the thing actually stayed on the side of the camera too...for that you'll need to mount a leaf spring type of metal behind the switch that holds it to the camera body and is tight enough to hold the switch in the position you set it in. These parts can be made out of just about any material that you want them to be, and the tolerances can be pretty rough and it should still work okay. I can't think of where you coud buy an appropriate switch-although some of the ones from tubesandmore.com may come close.
NOW there may be a problem in that the leaf spring on the switch may have been something more-some of them were made of copper and had fingers on them that extended down to the circuit board. These in turn actuated two different exposure modes-one type of meter reading when the filter is on, and another when the filter is off. Your meter won't work if this piece is missing. If it is, you may have to jump some contacts together and get it working in one mode and then manually meter from there between filter switching. But just hope that you won't have to do that.
Re: Elmo 1012 filter switch
parts camera available $50 plus shipping
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Re: Elmo 1012 filter switch
leadlike wrote: Are you saying that the switch just fell off of the side of the camera? Or was someone monkeying around with the insides and some camera guts have vanished? If the latter, you'll probably need to find a parts camera. But if you're in the former category, you should be able to rig something up:
This camera was given to me about a year ago. It has nothing on the side but a hole where the filter switch used to be, and there is something loose that rattles under the camera shell. I can't see anything that resembles what you describe, so I'll assume I'm in the worse of the two scenarios.
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Re: Elmo 1012 filter switch
Hi, I have an Elmo 1012 that I bought off eBay and....ok don't laugh and no rhetoric please ..I know I know... I unpacked it put batteries in and everything seemed fine. I was putting it back in its case and without warning the filter switch just dropped off... I think it is a design fault as I have seen and heard of this happening before. The little claw is there underneath, but then this disappears inside the camera. So I think the thing rattling around inside your camera is this claw clip.
I've not opened mine up yet to see if I can fix it. I was really gutted that it was stuck in the daylight position, as at least if it had been in the artificial light position I could have just screwed on a colour conversion filter when necessary and otherwise shoot unhindered!
I know this might be of little help to you, but I think your camera has not been monkeyed around with but is just a victim of fatigue and the actions of time.
My camera came with its original receipt dated May 1980 so that's more than 28 years now. It seems most of the latter day high end consumer Super 8 cameras have common faults that develop. Now this is just a guess, but I'm assuming the manufacturer back then hadn't factored for use well into the 21st century... I personally think this switch is a design fault and is far to flimsy. A strange Achilles heel on an otherwise well built camera!
I hope you get your camera sorted out mate. Your post has prompted me that I should be brave and open up the camera. I guess I’m lucky as I saw the switch fall off and still have it!
Good luck!
Jamie
I've not opened mine up yet to see if I can fix it. I was really gutted that it was stuck in the daylight position, as at least if it had been in the artificial light position I could have just screwed on a colour conversion filter when necessary and otherwise shoot unhindered!
I know this might be of little help to you, but I think your camera has not been monkeyed around with but is just a victim of fatigue and the actions of time.
My camera came with its original receipt dated May 1980 so that's more than 28 years now. It seems most of the latter day high end consumer Super 8 cameras have common faults that develop. Now this is just a guess, but I'm assuming the manufacturer back then hadn't factored for use well into the 21st century... I personally think this switch is a design fault and is far to flimsy. A strange Achilles heel on an otherwise well built camera!
I hope you get your camera sorted out mate. Your post has prompted me that I should be brave and open up the camera. I guess I’m lucky as I saw the switch fall off and still have it!
Good luck!
Jamie
Re: Elmo 1012 filter switch
I think I may have bought the original poster's camera, because I just picked up an Elmo 1012 off Ebay with the big hole where the filter was and the missing switch. There is no C clip inside and I can't tell what position the filter is in. Where can I send this camera in for servicing in North America? The camera also doesn't turn on unless the hand grip is in the down position. That said the camera did fire up when the shutter was released. Would an Elmo 350SL work as a parts camera for the missing switch? Or would I need another 1012 or 612 camera?
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Re: Elmo 1012 filter switch
Hello!
I'll give you a working 1012 if you pay the shipping from Sweden
Pm
Gabriel
I'll give you a working 1012 if you pay the shipping from Sweden
Pm
Gabriel
Re: Elmo 1012 filter switch
Hi Gabriel,gabrielborner wrote:Hello!
I'll give you a working 1012 if you pay the shipping from Sweden
Pm
Gabriel
Sure. Send me a PM (I haven't] figured it out yet on my end here (PM)). I live in BC Canada, so it would have to be sent by postal mail if you do send it.
Scott
Re: Elmo 1012 filter switch
Gabriel,
Don't worry about it. I found another camera to get.
Don't worry about it. I found another camera to get.