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Punches have arrived!

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Good news. 200D is set for DS8

Seems buko is still in business.
It must be some really expensive parts. Possibly their weight worth in silver or even gold. :)

Let's hope they get enough users/buyers.
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Check out this APUG forum post regarding what appears to be refurbished Buko (German) 35mm perforation machines, i.e.

http://www.apug.org/forums/forum249/103 ... chine.html
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I don't quite understand, is Wittner going to sell these punches so whoever wants to can do their own perforating? If so that would be great but looking at the photo how would you put together a practical workflow in your own workshop or darkroom e.g. taking a 400 ft strip of 35 mm neg and making one 400 ft length of DS8 neg or somehow obtaining a length of unperforated 35 and slicing it then perforating.

Or is Wittner just announcing a purchase of the punches they will use for their 200d DS8?
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Jeremy,

The Buko machines are not for sale.
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Nicholas Kovats wrote:Jeremy,

The Buko machines are not for sale.
The Wittner website appears to be saying something else:
With the tool kits purchased from us, you can implement a separate DS8 (1-4) workflow.
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Do they mean we can make our own DS8 using punches bought from them or do they mean we can shoot DS8 (i.e. a workflow) purchased from Wittner made from equipment that uses these new punches? Its only in the separate APUG forum that the Buko machines are mentioned. I am guessing you are correct but the language is confusing....... the perils of translation.
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I'm pretty sure Wittner gets their AGFA stock from the manufacturer unperforated.

I am sure they paid a small fortune to get these punches made.

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Thanks. Rereading yours and Nicholas's posts I guess Wittner are celebrating that these new punches have arrived and that they can use them especially for DS8 and the polyester base of the Agfa 200d producing very precise sprocketing.

I'm just glad DS8 is getting some more attention. Perhaps next we will get a neg stock in DS8.......... one can hope.
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JeremyC wrote: The Wittner website appears to be saying something else:
With the tool kits purchased from us, you can implement a separate DS8 (1-4) workflow.
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Having read the German version, a more correct translation would be: With the tool kits additionally purchased by us, you can implement a separate DS8 (1-4) workflow.

The German text certainly doesn't suggest that they're up for sale, but simply says how chuffed Wittner are to have got hold of these rare tools.

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Love the UK lexicon. "Chuffed" it is!
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I'm chuffed they have made this investment and also chuffed that Orwo have had a Buko machine rebuilt for perforating 35.
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Sorry to sound a bit thick , but what implications does this have for us super eight users..............
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None. This is only of interest to those of us who shoot double-super8.
Although it should be of interest to see someone investing seriouly in order to keep any variation of the small gauges alive.

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Double super 8 is the most flexible film to get. You can splice it to super 8 and single 8 and still use it with good cost as double suoer 8.
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freddenacka wrote:Double super 8 is the most flexible film to get. You can splice it to super 8 and single 8 and still use it with good cost as double suoer 8.
I would say regular double 8 is more flexible as you can use it in a 16mm camera too. Guess it all comes down to what cameras you have.
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