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First Negative Processing and Telecine Test

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Hi everyone.

I've been having some fun shooting and developing Orwo UN 54 as Neg with D-76H. This is the first ever B&W neg film we've done and hopefully we can offer a service for it fairly soon. The horizontal scratches were caused by my newly built drying rack so ignore those (I just need to cover the bars). Thoughts on the processing and scanning standard would be appreciated as would ways to improve them :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNXzAcme ... kj7i0p5NWg

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Kevin,

That film has a gorgeous look.

Are you planning to extend your neg processing to Kodak Vision 3?
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Hi Jeremy, thanks for the comment!

Hopefully this year we'll be fully set up to handle all neg but for now I'm focusing on B&W. We'll see how colour goes after that :)

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Very cool look. I have a test cart of UN54 I want to have processed reversal....
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The bulk of it looks pretty good, but there's a lot of inconsistencies in it. If I'm a customer and saw uneven, blotchy results, I'd tell everybody to avoid you. Sorry to be so blunt, I'm just saying most people are looking for perfect processing or they'd do it themselves.
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wado1942 wrote:The bulk of it looks pretty good, but there's a lot of inconsistencies in it. If I'm a customer and saw uneven, blotchy results, I'd tell everybody to avoid you. Sorry to be so blunt, I'm just saying most people are looking for perfect processing or they'd do it themselves.
I agree. You've got to get better results first.
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Im sure Kevin will take on board all you views.............this was just a test and im sure he will get the process sorted guys.
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wado1942 wrote:The bulk of it looks pretty good, but there's a lot of inconsistencies in it. If I'm a customer and saw uneven, blotchy results, I'd tell everybody to avoid you. Sorry to be so blunt, I'm just saying most people are looking for perfect processing or they'd do it themselves.
Like Kevin said this was a first test, and he was looking to see what the response would be and any constructive feedback is appreciated. Processing negative by hand is a very tricky art, I very much doubt that most people who do home processing would be able to get perfect results all of the time.

Kevins plan is to have samples available to potential customers so that they know what they are getting. Telling people to avoid services is counter productuive, you need to inform them of what they get, and the quality of the work available would be on show for them to make up their own minds.

I'm sure Kevin will be making more tests to see if he can perfect it. His reversal processing is already excellent, but like I said negative is more tricky and it takes time to get it right!
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slashmaster wrote:
wado1942 wrote:The bulk of it looks pretty good, but there's a lot of inconsistencies in it. If I'm a customer and saw uneven, blotchy results, I'd tell everybody to avoid you. Sorry to be so blunt, I'm just saying most people are looking for perfect processing or they'd do it themselves.
I agree. You've got to get better results first.
Like Kevin said, any views on how to improve are welcome. I think he already knows that he needs to get better results first.

This was his first test. I'm sure Kevin would be looking to take onboard feedback and constructive criticism so that he can make those improvements for the next test.
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Hi guys,

Yep, pretty much what Jamie said. First test... all feedback welcome.

I've shot another 2 B&W negative films to do some more testing but B&W neg is the most difficult to hand process evenly.

If I did offer a service with the current quality there would be a video on the product page so the customer knows exactly what they are getting. Things like this always come down to personal preference, experimental filmmakers like myself love the imperfections and others like their film to be as clean as possible. It comes down to what your intended output is I suppose. I get asked to do spaghetti processing a lot (which actually costs more because it takes up more tank space) so there is evidence to suggest plenty of people want the EXTREME uneven look.

But yes more tests to come... and if I decide to offer the service they will be posted on the product page. Then it will be up to the customer to decide whether or not they want to use the service regardless. Better to have a choice and a service than no choice or service at all.

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Apart from the first 38 seconds, it looks very professional to me - much cleaner than my own hand processing efforts!
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Hi everyone

The latest B&W neg test:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i6xzCR ... kj7i0p5NWg

It's much better. I've also done a test on some Orwo N74 which has come out really nice. When I get chance I'll post that too.

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I'd say that's a market improvement, though there's still some unevenness at the beginning. Keep up the good work!
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