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Not 35mm but me softfisk reminds og a digital back for Hasselblads about 19 years ago. 14 MPIX !!

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Assuming the technology works it looks to be a great way of utilising the optics of the camera while recording a digital image.

For a start most digital cameras have no manual control over a mechanical iris or mechanical focussing of the lens.

It really comes down to the old argument about what is the most important element of the process:

the subject

the photographer

the image collection machine

the image recording method

I quite like the idea of being able to use an old camera. Should be possible to fit something into an old standard 8 camera.
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Ahhhh!!!! It doesn't and never did and never will exist.

BUT, since we're talking about it, I understand why P+S Technik tried the digital SR mag. There was a ton of investment in SR3s and lenses and it seems to make sense until the digital back costs the same as a RED. Then why not just buy the full digital camera? Honestly I'd love to have one of those digital SR mags! It would be great to still use all my SR gear.

Anyone know if that ever made it past the prototype phase and if so where I could find one?

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a substitute....?

Digital Bolex shop is now open:

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btw, i think to remember that P+S Technik made an mechanical shutter adapter for video cams to create a "filmish feel" to video. this could be it.


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I have been thinking about this and realised that the only element of the movie camera being used is the lens. Therefore it would seem the quickest route to a hybrid would be to fit a cine lens onto a digital camera - one of those cheap flat ones would seem to be a good sacrificial donor.

I have this old vivitar so now for the trickest part of the experiment, getting the thing open.
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[quote="wahiba"]I have been thinking about this and realised that the only element of the movie camera being used is the lens. Therefore it would seem the quickest route to a hybrid would be to fit a cine lens onto a digital camera - one of those cheap flat ones would seem to be a good sacrificial donor./quote]

No, the quickest way would be to buy a COMPLETE camera, with lens already fitted, rather than buy a camera, remove its' carefully matched and fitted lens (which is probably better than your sacrificial lens anyway) and spend endless time and effort try to fit yours!
You will not improve the performance of a a cheap digital sensor by fitting a different lens. If the sensor of a cheap camera is capable of better results it would be in a more expensive camera with a better lens already.

My iPhone didn't give me better pictures when I fitted a Hasselbad lens. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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wahiba wrote:I have been thinking about this and realised that the only element of the movie camera being used is the lens. Therefore it would seem the quickest route to a hybrid would be to fit a cine lens onto a digital camera - one of those cheap flat ones would seem to be a good sacrificial donor.

I have this old vivitar so now for the trickest part of the experiment, getting the thing open.
Yeah - that sounds like a much more interesting project. You can buy HD camera chips for Raspberry Pi and Arduino computer boards. The project then becomes building an appropriate mount between the chip and your lens. The hard part would be separating a lens from a Super8 camera. Might be better to just buy a separate lens (prime or zoom) off ebay and leave the Super8 camera intact - to rest in peace on the mantlepiece.

You can get a camera chip like this - they usually come with their own lens but you can take that off and put your own lens on (be it from a Super8 camera or elsewhere).
http://www.raspberrypi.org/camera

Or a kit with it's own relatively decent lens
http://www.arducam.com/

The idea behind these cameras is not so much to make pictures or movies (for which there are already available readymades: gopro, iphone, etc) but to provide eyes for some other larger custom digital system which need not be a "movie camera", eg. it might be a machine vision project. It's particularly useful where you want it to be programmable in some way. Here we're moving away from the concept of a digital camera as some sort of substitute for a film camera and treating it as something interesting in it's own right with it's own peculiar directions.

The hassles associated with any project can be regarded as a turn off - especially when there are already ready-made solutions. But so too is spending money. That's also a hassle. Either way you are investing in the project - whether by spending money or expending elbow grease or a bit of both. One of the nice things about expending elbow grease is a better sense of ownership over the project - not to mention what you can learn in the process.

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