Flange focal distance of 9.5 mm camera ?

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Flange focal distance of 9.5 mm camera ?

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What can be the flange focal distance of a 20 mm Cinor lens of a 9.5 mm camera (Pathé National II) ?

The thread diameter of the mount is the same as the D-mount (15.88 mm), but the flange focal distance seems to be the same as the C-mount (17,526 mm).

Can I use a C-mount lens (with a D-mount > C-mount adapter ring) on a 9.5 mm camera ?

Mechanically, yes, but optically ?

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Pierre, il te faut une bague avec 17,52 mm d’hauteur. En mettant celle-ci entre l’ojectif et un verre dépoli tu devrais être en mesure de juger d’œil nu si tu as une image nette ou non. Je suis mécanicien et pourrais t’en faire une dans ma boutique mais j’espère qu’il y a encore des mécaniciens en France et dans ta région.

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Pierre, you need a ring of 17,52 mm height. Putting that between the lens and a ground glass you should be able to judge whether the picture is sharp or not by the naked eye. I am a mechanic and could make you such a ring in my shop but I hope that there are still some mechanics in France and in your neighbourhood.
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Re: Flange focal distance of 9.5 mm camera ?

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Comme la distance entre le film et la bague de montage de la caméra est de 28 mm, une bague supplémentaire ne ferait qu’augmenter cette distance avec le film. Il faudrait un objectif qui rentre profondément dans la caméra comme celui photographié.

As the distance between the film and the mounting ring of the camera is 28 mm, an additional ring would increase that distance with the film. There should be a lens that goes deep into the camera as he photographed.

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Voici les dimensions approximatives que j’ai pu mesurer de mon objectif Cinor 1,9/20 mm sur la caméra Pathé National II :

Here are the approximate dimensions that I could measure of my Cinor 1,9/20 mm lens on Pathé National II camera:
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Re: Flange focal distance of 9.5 mm camera ?

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Les 15,88 mm seront donc 15,875 mm correspondant à 5/8 pouce. Le plan principale d’un objectif 20 mm de foyer se trouve peut-être à 18 mm avant le plan pellicule dépendant du type, trois lentilles, quatre, . . .


The thread diameter seems to be 5/8" or 15,875 mm. The main plane of a 20 mm lens may lie some 18 mm in front of the film depending on its design, triplet, Tessar type, and so on.
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