krasnogorsk newbie help cant get it to run

[MattWalters]

Hi guys,

I've wound up the camera counterclockwise, I can hear it winding and feel resistance, but cant get it to run when pressing the trigger down, Ive tried changing speeds but this doesnt do anything

is there a trigger lock on it somewhere that I'm not seeing ? is there something else I have to do? its a new camera to me and I haven't ever owned one. how many times do I have to turn before it will run ? Im paranoid of over turning it now, I think ive turned it around 8 rotations counterclockwise, afraid to go any further so as not to keep pressure on the spring

any help very appreciated, thanks!

[wado1942]

If you hold down the trigger, can you turn the shutter by hand?

[richard p. t.]

You won't over wind the spring. When fully wound, you simply can't wind it any further.
But the camera should run with only a very slight wind. Something must be wrong with the release.
I suggest trying a cable release. Screw a cable release into the hole in the centre of the trigger button. Now squeeze the release. If that doesn't work, try screwing teh cable release into the single frame hole at the rear bottom of the camera.
If either of these two things make the camera run, then the problem is to do with the button itself. You would have to open the camera and see if it can be fixed.
The trigger mechanism on K3 cameras is not good I am afraid.
good luck

[MattWalters]

when the trigger button is depressed, the single frame button on the back shows some motion as well, like if you put your finger there you can feel it moving

does this indicate anything to anyone ?

[MattWalters]

also the camera is like new, not a scratch on it, still shiny, and all the accesories were still wrapped in tissue

could it be broken out of the factory ?

[jpolzfuss]

http://www.k3camera.com/k3/k3pdfs/2008- ... manual.pdf

http://issuu.com/filmmaker8.com/docs/th ... ual_-_2010

[MattWalters]

incase anyone ever has this problem, I've fixed mine by taking off the lens and forcing the shutter a bit to rotate while depressing the trigger button, I think some grease had just gunked up and hardened, it worked perfectly after just pushing it a little bit

[mr_x]

Matt,

Glad you got sorted - can you update please - how are you getting on?

I loaded my K3 and tried it to make sure it was running. It was. I drove it miles for a shoot. Pressed the trigger. Nothing. Took it back to the car. Film jam. Cleared it, Tested it. OK. Tried filming again - motor running now but film static. It was actually a film jam again, film piling up behind the pressure plate. Gave up. Took the camera home & went over it. The film receiving roller behind the film gate was not catching the sprocket holes properly, so the sprocket was advancing the film by friction not pulling it on with the teeth. But you can't easily see the teeth because the sprocket is enclosed with stainless steel film transport guides. These guides do swing open slightly but only slightly.

Resolved this issue by pulling back on the film as it passes the receiving roller. If you can't pull it backwards it has engaged with the central sprocket teeth and you are sorted. But if the film starts to slip back you have either ripped the film sprockets or the film is out of register. Lightly but firmly pulling the film back at the initial load stage appears to be a quick check to make sure you are loaded correctly?

The exit side of the central loading mechanism I found awkward - the film has to be teased through - but as long as the initial load has synched with the sprocket teeth everything seems to go ok from here.

Any tips also appreciated & thanks Jorg for the manual pdf's the other day!

Ric