Removing image from film

[john59]

How would you remove images from edited film that could be used as leader??
Cheers guys.
John.

[wado1942]

Soak & scrape off the emulsion. It would be pretty time consuming and your "leader" would be pretty ugly.

[Rudat]

If B&W 10 minutes in bleach then few minutes in fixer bath....

[john59]

Its old stuff, Kodachrome 40 colour standard 8mm, its just rubbish I filmed back in the mid 70s, nothing of value on it, just seems a waste to chuck it out when it could be used for any std 8 films I buy if they need a new leader.

[richard p. t.]

undiluted household bleach (chlorine bleach) will do it. The same stuff you might clean the toilet with. Will take off everything - silver and dye.

[john59]

I thought I had read years ago that bleach would do the deed but was unsure..................cheers dood, thanks

[carllooper]

Its old stuff, Kodachrome 40 colour standard 8mm, its just rubbish I filmed back in the mid 70s

Good grief. I wouldn't recycle it as leader. Edit it in a random, creative, surrealist way (etc), put some bent music to it, and you'll have a crazy art film!

Carl

[granfer]

At least that confirms what I have always suspected... anything created randomly by an "Artist" is called "Art"... all he has to do then is to think up some wording to justify it, whether relevant or not!

Then the rest of us non-artistic idiots can be branded as "ignorant" because we cannot understand the meaningless "explanations" of the creation that had no actual "intent" in the first place!

[carllooper]

At least that confirms what I have always suspected... anything created randomly by an "Artist" is called "Art"... all he has to do then is to think up some wording to justify it, whether relevant or not!

Then the rest of us non-artistic idiots can be branded as "ignorant" because we cannot understand the meaningless "explanations" of the creation that had no actual "intent" in the first place!

The pen is mightier than the sword, whether just or otherwise.

Art isn't just made by so called "artists". Ignorance, while not desirable, is not a sin. Education is an antidote to ignorance. Intent is not a necessary condition for a good work. Many useful, or enjoyable, or informative things have been discovered by accident. Experiments happen all the time in both science and art without intention being a necessary condition for their success. Meaning is over-rated.

One can still enjoy something like the following, even if it has no intent, meaning, originality, or even penned justification:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzNbVPF3qSw&sns=fb

[grainy]

As much as I support carl's approach over sour grapes, I'd say that a good artist needs to edit, and chucking unwanted material is as much a right as it can sometimes be a duty.

[carllooper]

As much as I support carl's approach over sour grapes, I'd say that a good artist needs to edit, and chucking unwanted material is as much a right as it can sometimes be a duty.

For sure. For me the following phrase is unwanted material:

"At least that confirms what I have always suspected... " [granfer]

Since I do not want to be personally associated with any suggestion that I'm confirming any such thing, I chuck it out.

Carl