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I'm interested in trying everything by myself - mainly to hopefully save money -- is there anyone here who is loading their own carts and developing them themself?

Any tips, advice, links? And how does the cost work out for you?

From what I can see there is the reloadable carts from Wittner

Any ideas on where to get the Kaccema carts?

As for the film - Wittner don't seem to stock the 100D reversal on a spool -- any idea who does?
I've got a developing tank and can get the chemicals locally

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Hi Scott,
go for it.
I purchased a carton of empty kodak cartridges for 100d loading before Kodak had released their stock. They are reasonably easy to load. I can sell you some if you want to try it. They cost me something like $6.50 Aus.
I would recommend buying some of the black rings that Wittner sell (or finding a suitable bit of tube to cut them yourself). They stop the film locking around the hub of the cartridge and causing a jam.
As for stock ... my plan was to slit DS8. You could try that yourself. Or you could ask Wittern to do it for you. They certainly have the capacity. Will depend on the price however.
the cheapest option (and this is about price) is to slit your own DS8. You could ask Spectra to slit for you, but again, it will be a price thing. but they have a nice slitter.
Its a damn shame the GK cartridge isn't available. It is ideal for self loading as you only have to load the supply side in the dark (which is much less complicated than loading both sides in the dark).
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I was abait to suggest Richard at least for processing in the first place when i read your post but seems to me like he is "Van The Man" best cooperative partner for your project.

KACCEMAs seem difficult to get hold of in larger numbers these days, shows up on e-bay and other Bays from time to time but most often in small numbers.
Kahlfilm and possibly Wittner supplied all gear needed to reload carts in field but i am uncertain about what they offer now. Check their web sites.



Kaccemas has nice PPs but cart body can appear a bit wobbly when assembled. I would secure it with tape to keep it stable and light proof. Means Richards offer may be a good deal.

There is a film clip on youtube using Kaccemas. The image stability is not impressive, at least at the first part.
Search Kaccema. Think itis Spanish origin.
EDIT: actually within this search string there are more examples too:
http://www.google.no/search?q=kaccema+s ... 24&bih=672

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Thanks guys for the info -- I've been thinking it might be better to try this with 16mm just to avoid the cart loading part of it -- I'll definitely be in touch with a few questions down the track Richard

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Moneywise it would best if you could get Kodak film from USA and do home-processing.
Although getting chemistry may be a problem.
It saves on time and shipping the film in-and-out.

Agfa S8 cartridges are easiest to re-use and have a one-sided flanged reel in the store side.
Raw S8 material either comes from DIY split DS-8 or you could get long rolls S8 from Wittner.
Wittner sells un-used Kodak cartridges too.
Kaccema's can be found on the web on occasion.
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Thanks Andre for that info.

Also it's probably out of date but it says here you can get the Cinevia Fuji 50asa film loaded in the GK carts here

http://www.gkfilm.de/en/index.html?7_fi ... cv-s8.html

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GK-film is a bit out off friends. Due all the vaporware.

As I understand it the Cinevia film is loaded into Kodak cartridges.
These were not found good enough but now there is no alternative they are deemed good enough.
There is some website which does the retailwork.
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