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Schneider and Kern Lenses

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I am still looking for lenses for my H16 RX. Currently I am trying to purchase a Schneider Cinegon 10mm lens on eBay. If my bid was successful, would it be advisable to stick to Schneider for a future normal and tele lens or can I combine Schneider and Kern lenses, as far as their optical characteristics especially color is concerned?
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Re: Schneider and Kern Lenses

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Is the Schneider lens optimized for Bolex Reflex cameras? If not, the focus won't be as sharp below f4 or f5.6 (I've seen many different opinions posted on this) than a lens optimized for the reflex viewing mechanism. Kern lenses optimized for reflex cameras are marked RX.

I assume if the Schneider lens is designed for reflex cameras, it is clearly stated. I have an Angenieux 12-120 for RX cameras, so I know manufacturers other than Kern made reflex lenses.
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Re: Schneider and Kern Lenses

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Hello Roger,

Thanks for your reply. Yes, the Schneider is a 1.8/10 RX Cinegon, so it should be RX-corrected.

What I actually meant, was whether lenses of both manufacturers could be combined, or wether the characteristics of the film shot with lets say a Schneider wide followed by footage shot with e.g. a Kern normal would noticeably differ.
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Re: Schneider and Kern Lenses

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Most books and articles I've read say not to mix different brand lenses because of differences in how they render color. I shoot with a Kern 10mm, Kern Vario Switar Compact (zoom), and an Angenieux 12-120 zoom. Everything I've shot so far has been on E100D and projected (~2 meters diagonal). I've not noticed any difference in sharpness between the different brands. As for color, the Kerns might have a slightly colder (bluish) rendition than the Angenieux. Their color rendition reminds me of the 1970s Canon FD lenses I used to use.

Unfortunately, I've never used a Kern and Angenieux on the same roll, or edited shots made with the different lenses together, so I can't be entirely sure of the amount of color difference. If you're shooting for telecine, you can probably adjust the color rendition in post.
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Re: Schneider and Kern Lenses

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Thanks Roger!

According to your reply it seems that the differences are within an amateur's tolerance. I'll go for the Schneider and then see, what I get next.

Philipp
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