Point of emulating Super 8 imperfections

[71er]

Seems that imperfections of film are hip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-cBigmRvwk
Even jitter was emulated into it.
I wish they'd really use Super 8 film - but I guess to get such a bad result back from developing is quite hard ...

[MIKI-814]

What a nonsense. How much did they pay for this fake? Velvia 50 in Super8 is more jittery and cheaper :lol:

[Andreas Wideroe]

What a load of crap. If they'd used Super8 the video would have been 10 times better looking.

[David M. Leugers]

I can't believe anyone would have thought this was a good emulation of S-8mm film. Take any of the S-8mm stocks available today shot with a decent S-8mm camera by one who knows how to use this marvelous format and this film
would have been so much better. Crap is right.

[cjcurry]

I see these kind of filters all the time all over the internet and on television. Seems to be a big trend now especially with hipster culture wanting to give the appearance of the old-school film aesthetic. There's a popular iPhone app that takes photos with all the highlights blown out, colours all washed out, soft focus, and the contrast ramped up.

For most people, it wouldn't even cross their mind that what they're looking at is laughable compared to the real thing. My opinion is that if you're shooting on DV then be honest about it and don't try to filter it to death. Though, I can understand why a lot of people would go running as quick as possible to digital once you inform them of the steps involved in getting a finished Super 8 product. Most will prefer to go the path of least resistance.

[8mm]

Those how think they are making their video look old style has obviously never even seen a real movie on film. In this video every third second is some kind of over exposure blemish and what looks like some sort of light leaks on the film. It is true what you say that is would look a lot better actually shoot on Super 8. I have never had problems with jittering ore light leaks with S-8.

[Angus]

I bet the light blemish is attempting to emulate reg 8mm or 16mm daylight loading mistakes at the beginning or runout of a reel. But they are too daft to realise that it doesn't affect the middle of the reel.

We are going to end up with a generation who think everything shot on film was grainy, dirty, unstable and ruined by light getting into the camera.

Just like I know people already who think that all vinyl records sound crackly. I've even got a plugin for audio software called "analogize" (the name itself is so wrong) which simply adds lots of scratches and pops to your audio track. When I downloaded it I thought maybe it smoothed the shrillness of higher frequencies and filtered out A/D artifacts or perhaps compression artifacts.

[Charlie Blackfield]

Just like I know people already who think that all vinyl records sound crackly. I've even got a plugin for audio software called "analogize" (the name itself is so wrong) which simply adds lots of scratches and pops to your audio track. When I downloaded it I thought maybe it smoothed the shrillness of higher frequencies and filtered out A/D artifacts or perhaps compression artifacts.

Nothing's new here. I've got a 1960 recording of Peter Sellers and Sophia Loren on a vinyl record. One of the songs tries to mock a 1920s sound - naturally, even in those days, they just made it sound a lot more crackly.

Charlie

[super8man]

Your tilting at windmills. Kids today believe the movies are always better than the books that inspired them.

[mr_x]

even BBC News do this 'cine filter' nonsense [that's trained technicians who know the hoax they are perpetrating] when they want to make something look 'old'. it's offensive to the likes of us but to jo/e public it's the same as bleaching the colour from a photograph to make it look old, which would be equally offensive to monochrome stills photographers who use darkrooms and chemicals to develop their imagery.

there is a correlation between easy and bourgeois. Pianos were easy because they fit in the parlour, TV is easy because it sits in the corner, displacing or substituting public performance and theatre respectively. Today tv and tv plugins like dv and video machines have all but displaced the cinema which is a terrible shame. But I think it's basically the same thing. the bourgeois generally win out because they have the money to invest in what appeals to them, that's why western culture is gradually turning into a tinsel town never-never land. But there is always a 'pendulum swing' corrective somewhere down the line, folks just get fed up with being cosseted all the time I guess.

[super8man]

And crap like this almost DETRACTS from the awesome music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sml8W5SAwo

They even added JITTER to still photography.

[mr_x]

the great Robert Johnson - music spoilt by silly dv tricks

by contrast

Big Bill Broonzy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm1qtX7Mz5w

believe this is 16mm filmed on an H16, the film ran out before the end and the music was matched to the film afterwards.

you hear how good blues guitar can be makes you want to give up at once!

:lol:

[etimh]

Check this one out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZEm0dcBGtI

New ad for CBTL coffee maker. Could be some real film in there, but the imperfections, jitter, and light leaks are almost certainly digital fakery.

It's an interesting strategy to sell all these shiny new consumer goods with a lo-fi "distressed" film aesthetic. But we know what that's about.

Tim

[71er]

Now that this thread has turned to the real thing I give you this link:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Hornbach#p/ ... -vfFL1vC1Q
It's a 2011 advert of a German/Austrian DIY market shot entirely on Standard 8. There was a report on it in one of the recent issues of Schmalfilm.