Zeiss Ikon Moviflex M808 ASA support

[Lunar07]

Does anyone here have the Zeiss Ikon Moviflex M808?
Does this camera have a slider OR a set of 5 or 6 pins to detect the ASA notch of the cartridge?
Different places on the net mention different things about this camera.

[MIKI-814]

film speed: auto between 16/25 and 250/400 ASA (1)

ASA notching: 6-pins

(1) auto for 16/25, 25/40, 40/64, 64/100, 100/160, 160/250 and 250/400 (daylight/tungsten)

super8data.com

[Lunar07]

i am aware of the info on super8data.com.
The manual of this camera mentions a different info.
There is inconsistency between the manual and the web site.
I need someone who actually has the camera to furnish information.

film speed: auto between 16/25 and 250/400 ASA (1)

ASA notching: 6-pins

(1) auto for 16/25, 25/40, 40/64, 64/100, 100/160, 160/250 and 250/400 (daylight/tungsten)

super8data.com

[joelpierre]

“I need someone who actually has the camera to furnish information.”

I have a 808. Like the other Moviflex, there is a single sensor that moves to the stop of the notch with the closure of the lock of the door.

[Lunar07]

Ok! Thanks! This is what I am looking for. So it has a slider. It looks like http://www.super8data.com is wrong on this one.
So you think it supports up to 250ASA like the other moviflexes?

I am asking because I wanted to get the M808 based on super8data.com info. But since this info is wrong I do not need to get this camera because I have Moviflex 811.

“I need someone who actually has the camera to furnish information.”

I have a 808. Like the other Moviflex, there is a single sensor that moves to the stop of the notch with the closure of the lock of the door.

[joelpierre]

So you think it supports up to 250ASA like the other Moviflex? I am asking because I wanted to get the M808 based on super8data.com info. But since this info is wrong I do not need to get this camera because I have Moviflex 811.

Most likely. But why do you want to acquire the 808 which is much lower than the 811?

[Lunar07]

So you think it supports up to 250ASA like the other Moviflex? I am asking because I wanted to get the M808 based on super8data.com info. But since this info is wrong I do not need to get this camera because I have Moviflex 811.

Most likely. But why do you want to acquire the 808 which is much lower than the 811?

I wanted the M808 based on the info on super8data.com that it supports up to 400ASA unlike the M811 that supports up to 250ASA. Thus my initial question. It looks like super8data.com is wrong on this one so I do not need the M808 after all.
Having said that: The M808 looks nice with its smaller filter size (49mm I believe instead of the 62mm of the M811) and its smaller zooming range which translates into less optical elements. I am not that fond of lenses with a huge zooming range.

All in all, I need to get a good Super8 camera that supports up to 400ASA and be **minimalistic without much electronics** and bells and whistles. The M808 was a good candidate initially based on super8data.com info. Unfortunately, this is not the case any more. Someone recommended the Ricoh 800Z, To the point camera with 400ASA support. Issue is that this camera is hard to find.

[joelpierre]

If there is one Moviflex to buy, it is the GS8. This is the best Moviflex and the best Super 8 camera (better than the Leicina Special with Optivaron). The GS8 in good condition is rare (auto exposure often out of service). You can adjust the exposure manually (with a trigger).

http://super8wiki.com/index.php/Zeiss_I ... Electronic

The Leicina Super and Special manage the 400 ASA. The Leicina Special goes up to 650 ASA.

The Beaulieu 2008 and 4008 also manage the 400 ASA.

The Leicina Super is very easy to obtain, it manages the 400 ASA and its quality is the highest level (Leitz).

http://www.super8data.com/database/came ... _super.htm

[Lunar07]

If there is one Moviflex to buy, it is the GS8. This is the best Moviflex and the best Super 8 camera (better than the Leicina Special with Optivaron). The GS8 in good condition is rare (auto exposure often out of service). You can adjust the exposure manually (with a trigger).

Certainly! I have the GS8 and GS8 Synchron. But they sense, in auto mode, up to 250ASA. Have they had the +1 lever, they could have been modified to accept higher rates (I discovered that the +1 lever on the MS8 is just a circuit closure that has a variable resistor in the battery compartment.) There is a Voigtlander place in Germany that still services these cameras.

The Leicina Super is very easy to obtain, it manages the 400 ASA and its quality is the highest level (Leitz).

I have had bad experiences with the Leicina Super (and the Special is beyond my means at the moment) - three of them. I am afraid to touch one But it is not a bad idea to find one in a very good condition.

[Carles]

Sorry, Lunar07! The data on the film speed of the Zeiss Ikon M808 camera is wrong. I take note of this: the camera has not a mechanism with 5 pins, but with a sliding lever, like the other Moviflex cameras. The data of the Moviflex M808 file were taken from super8arena website:

http://super8arena.com/zeiss-ikon-m-808 ... p-159.html

As soon as I can, I change the data.

:?

Carles
http://www.super8data.com
http://www.mostra-super8.com

[Lunar07]

Thanks Carles. Also, please change info for the Zeiss Ikon Moviflex S8: It supports 10 to 100 ASA, not 25 to 250.
This is a great web site by the way. I use it as a reference.

Sorry, Lunar07! The data on the film speed of the Zeiss Ikon M808 camera is wrong. I take note of this: the camera has not a mechanism with 5 pins, but with a sliding lever, like the other Moviflex cameras. The data of the Moviflex M808 file were taken from super8arena website:

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As soon as I can, I change the data.

:?

Carles