Loading a Super 8 cartridge

[Pj]

I have got some Fomapan DS 8 film which I want to use in my Super 8 camera. I have got a film slitter and a I have a Kacema re-loadable cartridge, but I am not sure what the best way is to actaually put the film in the cartridge, it doesn’t seem to be a straightforward process, it’s as if the film has to be dropped into the cartridge. How do people load their Super 8 cartridges?

Thanks

P

[aj]

Slit the film in the dark. Use a roller to hold the ds8 reel and fix two S8 reels on the receiving hub. Yank the film to slitter. Fix this to a holder.

One S8 reel needs to be wound back on another to get the perfs on the correct side.

Use a Kaccema core and wind 15 meter of S8 onto that. Put this core into the Kaccema according to its instructions.
Don't go without core or the film will lock onto the hub.

Better to start with 10 meter DS8 mini-rolls. Then there is no need to measure the length.

Search the forum for earlier discussion/ instructions.

[Pj]

Hi

Is this Kacema core designed to fit over the hub? In which case I haven't got this core, don't know what it looks like as I have no instructions either. It would make sense if the film is wond onto a core which is slipped onto the hub. In Kodak cartridges that I've opened the film does not seem to be on a core but is somehow wound onto the hub.

Thanks

P

[MIKI-814]

Never load a Kaccema with more than 10-12 m. or you will have all kinds of problems with it. Lubricate it properly with gate-lube.

[aj]

Hi

Is this Kacema core designed to fit over the hub? In which case I haven't got this core, don't know what it looks like as I have no instructions either. It would make sense if the film is wond onto a core which is slipped onto the hub. In Kodak cartridges that I've opened the film does not seem to be on a core but is somehow wound onto the hub.

Thanks

P

Check here for Kaccema info:
http://www.super8.nl/english/e_frame_edu_herv.htm

The core needs to be there, it is a ring which prevents the film from locking onto to the hub and blocking the film.
Fix a core from paper or cardboard.

There are Kodaks with and without cores. Agfa even have a flange on their cores

[Pj]

Thanks for that.

I have some old Agfa cartridges from the early 1970's all lablelled Agfacolor CK 17. I was going to use them, but they're so old and I don't know if I can process these films with the usual E6 kits. Anyway I going to open one of these cartridges to see how the film is loaded and load it with film as the general consensus is that these are easier to open and seal than Kodak.

When lubing film do you lube the base side?

Thanks

P

[aj]

I suppose the CK-17 doesn't do well in E6. Agfa had its own lab-chemistry then.

Better use the film from these to practice loading and use the cartridges for experimental loading and filming

If these are the same design as the white-boxed agfa oepening should be too difficult. Carefully run a thin plastic blade through the glued seams. Or use a thumb-nail