Simple Home Made Splitter & Perforator From the 1940s

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Simple Home Made Splitter & Perforator From the 1940s

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There is a documentary (also on net but unfortunately only avail in Norway it seems: http://www.nrk.no/nett-tv/klipp/762249/ ) on our NRK TV station about a enthusiastic free lance filmmaker which spent most of his/their life (soon 90) to film local history, collect films of any kind and produced quite a few shorts.

The clip it self is very exciting as is shows real filmmaking in all its genuine glory but unfortunately it is only in Norwegian.

Due to shortage of film material during WWII these guys made a simple film perforator which split down a 35mm to 1x16mm + 1x8mm.

Additionally they modified a sewing machine! to perforate the film. Both devices are shown in operation in the film clip but i took some screen shots of the clip which ate posted below.

So simple it can be done - at least for limited quantities :)

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This is great! I was thinking modifying a projector by adding a hole puncher would be the way to go but this looks much easier. I wonder what kind of registration he gets doing this?
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Have not watched any clip verified to be shot on home brew but there are some parts on the net film from WWII that might be. Anyway they have transfered a lot of the material to DVDs commercially available so it will be possible to verify the steadiness at some point.

From the net clip of the perforator its operation is very precise and smooth operating. The sewing machine is manually operated and the whole thing is fairly genious as the progress is fully adjustable to any film standard by standard adjusment and the perf size is just a matter of "needle" shift :)

I will try to download the clip an Tube it to show how beautiful and smooth this device operates.

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uploaded a small clip on the Tube.

flicker is mainly due to off screen shooting at incorrect setting.

clip shows:

• slitter
• perforator.
• some clips shot with home made film.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w59a9_YwtmE

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Thanks for uploading it! I'm still trying to figure out what he replaced the sewing machine needle with. I guess he filed his own puncher then filed a hole in a plate with that perf size for it to go through?
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Curb your enthousiasm.

It is all very nice but it is only for experimental work or when there is nothing from a factory. Like in wartime and supply to consumers gets low or nothing. I.e. you would have to make do :( Still better chances then building your own HD camera without components available.

Slitting using a razorblade is useless. I know from perosnal experience when I tried it for cutting 70cm of 9.2mm MINOX film. Let alone 15 meter of S8. The cutting will be very coarse and the sides will never be parallel. In the posted film you can clearly see the blade swinging left-right. The only proper method to slit is with rolling cutters. I.e. like the LOMO 16/8 cutters. And which large factory machines do.

For perforating you need things like these in DS8 or S8 design (and expect to spend big money ( >5K Euro on them :) ) :
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I.e. one or more punches (and a die) and a number of guiding pins who will ensure the interval is exact to a very high level. Trusting the advancing pushers of a sewing machine is just ridiculious when considering all attempts to keep play and margins in cameras or projectors to utter minimums.

Check on the 5 year past threads here on the Paul Cotto perforating attempt. Never heard from that undertaking again. What happened. Out of time or money?
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where is that perforator dye from?
I've read buhl made a reperforator, but never have seen one, not even on fleabay.
its not a bad idea if you dont want to spend 30-40 per roll from some place which recuts 35mm stock.
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The photo is from BUKO http://www.buko-gmbh.de
who seem to manufactur machines for film manufacturing industry.

Working from the image somebody with machining experience could construct the 3 parts in the picture for S8. Possibly with 2 guiding pins and 2 or 3 perforating punches. Then if somebody could then fix that to a sewing machine or something...

I know a seller with 35mm unperforated Agfapan 100 :)

Possibly you could get 35mm film worked into DS-8 or S8 at Wittner? Or Kahl (despite their reputation) or possibly GK-film (if your good at german).
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