Oh dear oh dear oh dear!

[Muckymuck]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CHINON-SILENT-SUP ... 35b2ba86d8

[sciolist]

I guess we should be thankful the seller didn't describe it as a video camera.

[Scotness]

Hmm...I've never seen this model before - mustn't have been a big seller -- hang on I see the reason why --> as much as I applaud their film transport mechanism, and their use of seperate reels and ditching the cart - I still can't help but think there's going to be serious fogging issues once the film passes through the gate and onto the take up reel...


:lol: :lol: :lol:


But does of course beg the point that a projector is alot like a camera in reverse - and in fact some of the earliest motion picture cameras did reverse out to be projectors as well --> I wonder if some bright spark will end up doing that with video cameras??

[jpolzfuss]

Hi,

the whole auction doesn't make sense as the photos show a projector, while the description mentions two different cameras (that shared the same manual)!?
http://www.super8data.com/database/came ... 132pxl.htm
http://www.super8data.com/database/came ... 133pxl.htm
(BTW: Super8data and Super8wiki claim that both cameras have been marketed in 1982/83, even though the description mentions 1978. :mrgreen: )

Strange!
Jörg

[BAC]

I have seen listings like that before, some lucky SOB may end up getting a great deal on a projector (or a camera) because it was listed wrong. At least it has a low starting price. Whoever bids on it is taking a gamble on what will actually be delivered.

What gets me is when they make a mistake like that and have an over inflated starting price. If they don't know what they are selling how do they know the value of it?

[granfer]

The seller tells me that it is a Chinon GL2000.
This is actually a dual gauge (not just Super 8 ). So you will get the illustrated projector, plus (presumably) the instruction manual for two Chinon Cameras!

If you do not know how to work a projector, then the best of luck doing it using the instructions!

[beamascope]

Hmm...I've never seen this model before - mustn't have been a big seller -- hang on I see the reason why --> as much as I applaud their film transport mechanism, and their use of seperate reels and ditching the cart - I still can't help but think there's going to be serious fogging issues once the film passes through the gate and onto the take up reel...


:lol: :lol: :lol:


But does of course beg the point that a projector is alot like a camera in reverse - and in fact some of the earliest motion picture cameras did reverse out to be projectors as well --> I wonder if some bright spark will end up doing that with video cameras??

Nikon has done it with a still camera at least. It might even project video if the camera shoots it.

[BAC]

I guess we should be thankful the seller didn't describe it as a video camera.

Here you go:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Paillard-Bo ... 2c5d695088

"Vintage Paillard-Bolex C8 Video Recorder"

[Patrick]

But nothing can beat these two cameras which I just found on eBay which have to be the ultimate 8mm cameras. According to the sellers' descriptive titles, these cameras can accept both super 8 film and video8 tape. Puts Elmo's Trimatic camera to shame!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-Handycam-Video ... 2a1141ea6e

http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-Video-8-camcor ... 4aabf81279

[Muckymuck]

I actually have a GL2000. It's quite a find as there's a very easy and tool-less way to modify it so that you have a variable speed projector from about 3fps to about 32fps. You simply take off the cover and push down a little piece of metal that restricts the speed control dial so that you can then turn it nearly 360 degrees. Mine's worked well for 5 years with this modification.

[Patrick]

Looks like one of those ebay links that I posted has been edited. Previously the title read 'Video 8 / vintage super 8' for a Sony Video 8 camera.

I did see another auction where a seller had included some video camera accessories with a super 8 camera, thinking that they might possibly be of use with the camera. Btw, these were electronic accessories, not optical accessories like filters etc.

[Angus]

There is real confusion between super 8 film and hi 8 video. I've tried explaining to some people a little younger than me (therefore from the video age) and some of them seem totally unable to grasp the concept of home film cameras.

so it never comes as a surprise to me when people refer to a super 8 camera they've found in their loft as a video camera or hi8 (or talk about super 8 video cams when they mean hi 8)

[IShootR8]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CHINON-SILENT-SUP ... 35b2ba86d8

I recently contacted an ebay seller when he listed photo enlarger grain focusing aids as a slide viewers. He was selling a bunch of them that he bought used from a high school. I even sent him a link to BH Photo showing the exact same model - new and at less cost than the ones he was selling. He corrected the description, but left the same price.