A mad thought

[john59]

Dont beat me up for this guys but I was sat here thinking about shooting some 8mm and it occured to me that if I was to shoot with a digi camcorder at the same time could the sound from the cam be added to the film at a later stage and how could it be done? I have to much time on my hands at the moment me thinks :lol:

[S8 Booster]

This is perfectly possible and has been discussed in several threads on this board earlier. Search sync and more.

Shoot....

[gianni1]

The camcorder will probably pickup the film camera's motor noise, unless you blimp it or place its microphone some distance away. Use a clapper board or have the talent clap their hands to sync the audio visual tracks.

G 8)

[carllooper]

I'd say "madness" is a prerequisite here.

On a shoot I'm planning at the moment I've got a Super8 and a digital camera looking at the same scene through a beam splitter.

With respect to recording sound - one of the interesting things about sound is that sound has been done electronically (in one way or another) since the beginning of the "talkies".

Even better than a camcorder is to use a digital sound recorder. I think they're great.

One of the things I've been experimenting with is using sound cancellation principles to blimp the camera. You can buy even some microphones that use sound cancellation although I don't know how good they are.

Doing it manually requires recording the sound of the camera (on a different track) at the same time as you record the scene sound. On the computer, using programs such as Audacity, you can use the camera recording to cancel out the camera sound from the main recording.


Carl

Film/Digital debate aside:
I shoot film - not because it is better or worse than digital (although I personally think it's better) but because it is conceptually, technically, historically, and visually different from digital. However from a digital perspective (in each of the same categories) there is no difference - which is the other reason I shoot film.

[beamascope]

Dont beat me up for this guys but I was sat here thinking about shooting some 8mm and it occured to me that if I was to shoot with a digi camcorder at the same time could the sound from the cam be added to the film at a later stage and how could it be done? I have to much time on my hands at the moment me thinks :lol:

I've done this before but never with much real sync work like a long speaking part in need of sync. For sound effects and background noise it works great. I'm assuming you're putting the film into an editing program of some kind? Once you get the film footage into it you can just find matching sound portions from the video you shot and import the audio only. This way you can use the video footage to show you what the sound is. Lay down a track of background sound then chop up the sound effects to fit the action on another track.

[Patrick]

If you're using a video camera for the sound recording, make sure it's a model that accepts an external microphone, and has manual recording levels. I have a JVC MiniDv camcorder that produces quite nice looking video but has no provision for an external mic and recording level is automatic. So the resulting audio sounds like it comes from a cheap tape recorder from the 1980s!