Just found 3 kodachrome 40 rolls.

[emilastrand]

Haha, yeah, dilemma.
In a conversation with my teacher just now, we start talking about super 8. He said he had a student a time ago that did a project on super 8. He said he might have some rolls left in the fridge. We found them and he gave them to me.

Thing is, they're unexposed Kodakchrome 40 rolls, expired in 2002.
So, what should I do with this? Dwayne's Photo, only lab in the world that processes Kodachrome 40 stopped doing this 30th of december 2010. I didnt care much about that, although I was a bit sad that I never got to shoot with that filmstock.

now the chance reappears, but what to do with the processing!? Can I try it DIY some way? if thats the only option i might as well do it, got the rolls for free anyway.

thanks for the help!

[Nicholas_C]

Someone else can probably be more specific with this but I think the only way is to have them processed as a black and white film unfortunately without the lovely k40 colour but thats the way it is. There are some people on the web who do film processing of discontinued or old films, these would be the people to search for. I'm not sure how easy it is to DIY process them as black and white....

Hope this helps. I too have some unprocessed K40s so I'd be interested to know much it would cost to process them in monochrome...

good luck!

[jpolzfuss]

Hi,

try

Rocky Mountain Film Lab
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11801 E 33rd Ave Suite A
Aurora, CO 80010
USA
http://www.rockymountainfilm.com/
info@rockymountainfilm.com

Film Rescue International
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P.O. Box 44
Fortuna, ND 58844-0044
USA
or alternatively
P.O. Box 428
Indian Head, SK S0G 2K0
Canada
http://www.filmrescue.com/
mail@filmrescue.com

Process C22
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PO Box 496
Margate
CT9 9EE
England
http://processc22.webs.com/
info@processc22.co.uk

Plattsburgh Photographic Services
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Martin W. Baumgarten
18 Elm Street
Plattsburgh, New York 12901-1827
USA
Super8mm@aol.com

FotoStation
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146, High Street
Ruislip
HA4 8LJ
England
http://www.oldfilmprocessing.com/
info@fotostation.co.uk

BEWARE:

• Rocky Mountain filed insolvency and is now under "reorganization" (s. http://www.rockymountainfilm.com/news.htm ). At least this might cause a major delay in getting your films processed. Some might also argue that "reorganization" means chaos and that chaos means that your films might get lost.
• Rocky Mountain and FotoStation have been the only non-Dwayne-labs that are/were still able to do Kodachrome as colour-reversal. However FotoStation did have the same problem as Dwayne's: their supply of the special chemistry was nearly gone. Last fall, they predicted to be out of chemicals in December (like Dwayne's). However asking them wouldn't hurt. All other labs will turn your Kodachrome into a b&w-negative!

It's possible to process Kodachrome as a b&w negative at home:
http://lavender.fortunecity.com/lavende ... egdev.html
(K-14 is 6min in step3 according to Mr. Baumgarten)

It's also possible to process Kodachrome as a b&w positive at home:
http://www.ralphdickinson.com/process_s ... hrome.html
(Remember the "When shooting Kodachrome, overexpose 1/2 to 1 stop..."-hint when shooting!)

When you'll search this board you'll also find links to a guy in Prague that is able to home-process Kodachrome-slides as colour-reversal. However the results still had "some" problems...

Jörg

[beamascope]

I don't want to burst a bubble but nobody will process it as Kodachrome. Kodak no longer makes the chemicals/dyes to do it. I think Spectra will do it as B&W but there is a 6 month wait. I wouldn't bother and keep them as mementos. Buy some stock that can be processed. Here is what Wiki says it take to do it.


Kodachrome required complex processing that could not practicably be carried out by amateurs.[27] The process has undergone four significant alterations since its inception.[28] The final version of the process, designated K-14, was introduced in 1974. The process was complex and exacting, requiring technicians with extensive chemistry training, as well as large, difficult-to-operate machinery.
First, the antihalation backing was removed with an alkaline solution and wash. The film was developed using a developer containing phenidone and hydroquinone, which formed three superimposed negative images, one for each primary color.[28]
After washing out the first developer, the film underwent re-exposure and redevelopment stages. Re-exposure exposed the silver halides that were not developed in the first developer, effectively fogging them. A color developer then developed the fogged image, and exhaustion products formed a dye in the color complementary to the layer's sensitivity. The red-sensitive layer was re-exposed through the base of the film with red light, and then redeveloped forming cyan dye. The blue-sensitive layer was re-exposed through the emulsion side of the film with blue light, and then redeveloped with a developer to form yellow dye. The green-sensitive layer was redeveloped with a developer that chemically fogged it and formed magenta dye. The two light re-exposures had to be carefully controlled so as not to cause re-exposure of the green-sensitive layer.[28]
Following color development, the metallic silver was converted back to silver halide using a bleach solution. The film was then fixed, making these silver halides soluble and leaving only the final dye image. The film was finally washed to remove residual chemicals which might have caused deterioration of the dye image, dried and cut.[28]

[nickrapak]

• Rocky Mountain and FotoStation have been the only non-Dwayne-labs that are/were still able to do Kodachrome as colour-reversal. However FotoStation did have the same problem as Dwayne's: their supply of the special chemistry was nearly gone. Last fall, they predicted to be out of chemicals in December (like Dwayne's). However asking them wouldn't hurt. All other labs will turn your Kodachrome into a b&w-negative!

This is not true. Both Rocky Mountain and FotoStation served as couriers to Dwayne's, and charged the people unlucky enough to pay for their services 4x the going rate. Now both websites say "B&W only" and that has nothing to do with them being out of chemicals.

[aj]

Hi,

try

Rocky Mountain Film Lab

Jörg

seems you missed a few posts in recent past.
Rocky Mountain is broke and out off business.
DO NOT SEND WHATEVER FILMS TO ROCKY MOUNTAIN LAB!
YOU WILL NEVER SEE THEM BACK

If there is nothing on a Kodachrome don't bother with using them unless for experimental film. Like scratched film projection or checking you LOMO spiral loading skills with possible actual developing. Prepare for a lot of trouble.

Also camera filmtransport testing might be a useful application.

[Will2]

Here's what you do:

Put those Kodachrome cartridges on a museum shelf and buy new Ektachrome 100D stock from Kodak and shoot some Super 8.

There's no good, cost effective way to process it anymore so don't bother shooting it. You'll be much better off shooting new stock.

[Actor]

Look into the possibility of selling them to a collector "as is."

On that note I think that they will be more valuable if the seals on the box are unbroken.

[jpolzfuss]

seems you missed a few posts in recent past.
Rocky Mountain is broke and out off business.

No, I haven't missed anything and hence there's a warning about the insolvency in my posting!

[jpolzfuss]

Both Rocky Mountain and FotoStation served as couriers to Dwayne's

Last year I asked FotoStation whether they can do K-14 in-house or whether they're forwarding the films to Dwayne's. Their answer was "in-house".

As for Rocky Mountain: At least they used to have a "Kodak K-Lab Kodachrome Film Processor"... (s. http://www.rockymountainfilm.com/equipmt.htm )

[Blue Audio Visual]

Last year I asked FotoStation whether they can do K-14 in-house or whether they're forwarding the films to Dwayne's. Their answer was "in-house".

On Fotostation's website they now say:

All KodakChrome films will be processed after December 15th, 2010 in Black & White , NOT in Colour.

Which would very very strongly suggest to me that they were probably shipping them out to Dwayne's, allowing 15 days for their last batch to leave the UK and reach Kansas in time for the 30th Dec deadline.

They also state:

Time Frame : KodaChrome and EktaChrome Despatch in 2 - 4 Months from receipt.Some movie films other than KodakChrome K40(process Paid or Not)may take 2-8 months at least as we do them in batches according to the process.

Which makes it seem likely that the Kodachrome/Ektachrome went to Dwayne's (2-4 month turnaround), and the other more obscure types (Agfa, Boots etc.) were either farmed out elsewhere (2-8 months at least), or maybe they did indeed do those types in-house?

[mr8mm]

Martin Baumgarten at Plattsburg Photo informed me that he can process Kodachrome as a black and white reversal. He can process as pure black/white or as a sepia toned black and white. He charges $35.00.

In my opinion unless you want to use the Kodachrome for some special reason, use the new E100D. Dwayne's is still processing the E6 E100D through Walmart. So, the cost of the film plus processing by Walmart would be less than cost of processing the Kodachrome. The only reason to use Kodachrome would be to use Kodachrome sound cartridges since there is no substitute.

Check the latest Kodak earnings report. The digital business continues to slide. Kodak got into the digital business too late to compete with HP and the Japanese companies. They should have stuck with film and made the best of it instead of killing off products like Kodachrome. It is just matter of time before FUJI buys the photo part of the business and HP buys the digital end just to get the Kodak brand name.

[Blue Audio Visual]

The digital business continues to slide. Kodak got into the digital business too late to compete with HP and the Japanese companies. They should have stuck with film and made the best of it instead of killing off products like Kodachrome.

The only public/mass market profile that Kodak seem to have at the moment here in the UK is a TV marketing campaign where their 'unique selling point' is that they sell the most economical cartridges for Inkjet printers...

Talk about racing to the bottom of the pond...

[mr8mm]

Yeh, Kodak is moving into inkjet printers just when the industry is moving toward LaserJet printers. Lexmark has come out with a new low cost laser printer.

J.S.

[emilastrand]

Oh damn. Seems very complicated then. even buying a Tri-X roll and get it processed seem to cost less. Probably waste of effort, time and money, looking at your comments!

They're in unbroken seals so maybe i should let it sit in the fridge some years and sell it as a collectible...

But thanks for your inputs!