Pre-taped S8 film

[rweilert]

Hi all,

does anyone offer S8 cassettes with audio tapes already glued on in the special cartridges for sound cameras?

It's a bit of a shame I can't use the sound part of my Nizos etc. anymore...

Rolf

[jpolzfuss]

Hi,

I don't want to disappoint you or to prevent you from using pre-striped film, but:
The production of those sound-carts has stopped in the mid-1990s. So when the film hasn't been stored in a freezer, you'll get strange results (pinkish images, completely black images, ...). Besides: Keep in mind that the film has to be processed! E.g. Dwayne's will stop the processing of all Kodachrome (incl. Super8-soundcarts) by the end of this year. And all other sound-carts (Kodak Ektachrome 160, Agfa Moviechrome 40/160, ...) require a special (=expensive) processing, e.g. here: 15.90 EUR (excluding reels, postal charges and 19% taxes!)
And as the camera's "sound-part" hasn't been used for a decade (or longer), there's also a chance that it doesn't work correctly any more. Not to mention that you'll encounter a lot of problems when editing the film later on as the sound is recorded 18 frames ahead of the picture. ...

Jörg

[dave]

i have frozen since manufacture (1996) kodachrome 40 sound stock in 50 and 200ft rolls(kma594 and kma288 ) processing must be done by dwaynes by the end of dec 2010. how many rolls would you be interested in purchasing?
dave in teaneck n.j. usa

[rweilert]

Thanks a lot for your answers, guys

@jpolzfuss: Yes I know it's been a long time, but I thought that someone like Kahl had dared to set up sound cartridges with the material those guys have been selling all the time since. It would involve pre-striping the film, however, and of course having the cartridges... I don't really believe the cameras' sound part will fail - maybe only after having shot the first test cartridge And yes, I know the drawbacks, but I've got some very lively films from the early eightees with original sound showing my family. It's even more fun when you hear people speak there.

@dave: I'm in Europe, so would that make sense sending them back and forth to the US three times? Maybe there's someone here in Germany who could process the films, too. And of course it depends on 1) your price and 2) their price.

Regards

Rolf

[jpolzfuss]

@jpolzfuss: Yes I know it's been a long time, but I thought that someone like Kahl had dared to set up sound cartridges with the material those guys have been selling all the time since.

Wittner did for one or two years after Kodak stopped selling pre-striped S8-film - but only for the film to be loaded into the Beaulieu SuperDrive SD8/60. And they stopped doing so because it became too expensive (1,50 EUR per meter if I recall correctly). Even though you can still get unexposed film pre-striped in fipra's dark-room, but it's expensive and you'll have to fill the film yourself into super8-carts afterwards, you can expect that Dave's offer will be the "newest" stock available.

Maybe there's someone here in Germany who could process the films, too.

No, he's speaking about KODACHROME!!!!!! It can only be processed into a colour reversal at Dwayne's, USA. All other labs have been closed!
(Okay, Rocky Mountain, USA can also process Kodachrome, but they're also in the USA, cost a fortune and when you'll do a quick search on the internet, you'll find a lot of complaints like "I had to wait nearly a year for my film"...)

Jörg

[rweilert]

You're right, and I realized what he meant. But I didn't know resources are so limited already

Rolf

[Will2]

(Okay, Rocky Mountain, USA can also process Kodachrome, but they're also in the USA, cost a fortune and when you'll do a quick search on the internet, you'll find a lot of complaints like "I had to wait nearly a year for my film"...)

Plus they process it as black and white.

Rocky Mountain Film works like this... you send them the film and a check, then you wait for months and forget about it. Then One to two years later you get it back and go, "Wow, I forgot I even sent this." That's exactly what happened to me twice with slide film.

[jpolzfuss]

Plus they process it as black and white.

It looks like they could do both colour-reversal and b&w-negative:
Colour Reversal:
http://www.rockymountainfilm.com/k14movie.htm
b&w-negative:
http://www.rockymountainfilm.com/K14oldmovie.htm

Jörg

[dave]

Rolf:
Price of film depends on how many carts
you are interested in buying and whether
you can shoot the 200ft carts or not. Per foot cost will be less for stock and processing if you are able to use the 200ft carts.If you know somebody coming to the states i could make sure it gets to me and back to you after you expose the film but suggest you insure film if you use any public shipping company.If
you need sync sound the only place in the world that can process kodachrome
in color is dwaynes I CAN GUARANTEE that you will not find a more economical
way of acheving sync sound than by using prestriped film and dwaynes If interested let me know.
dave

[rweilert]

Dave,

You're right, but I haven't found the time to look it up yet. As far as I remember I never had a camera with this additional 200 feet slot, only the small ones. So as it's just for fun, what if I said I'd buy 5 or 10 of the 50 feet carts, how much would they be?

Regards

Rolf

[beaunizo]

Rolf

You might want to check your PM personal messages before you start burning money on 3 times long distance shipping. While everything can be had at 2 times simple EU and DE shipping.

[dave]

5 would run $45 each
10 would run$35 each
plus shipping and insurance

[CineGuerrilha]

Hi Rolf,

i just bought a sound projector and the machine to glue the strip on the film. My final plan is to run the projector using a step motor and sync the sound from the computer to the film by controlling the film advance with more precision. But my projects are running very slow now (kid, job etc) and having the sound stripping working would already be a breakthrough. Anyway, wittner sells all the sound stripping consumables if you're interested. cheers

[woods01]

5 would run $45 each
10 would run$35 each
plus shipping and insurance

Dave, you can buy those on eBay for $35 each but they don't really sell unless priced at closer to $25 each. At this point in 2010 with mere months left for processing the value of K40 Sound is steadily declining. If you're not going to shoot your horde yourself then blow it out on eBay so someone can get some summertime shooting done with it.

[dave]

woods01

I appreciate your input but my supplies are slowly dwindling at that price.I beleive the reason my film can demand that price is that this film has been frozen since manufacture and will still give you a decent image.Buying k40 sound on ebay as well as any other film that old is very ify.There is a good chance that they were not frozen and buying such with subsequet development may prove to be a complete waste of time and money.
Anyway thanks four your advice