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hey, so i just recently bought a super 8 camera, a canon 1014xls. it came with 5 kodachrome 40 cartriges, the only thing is that it says develop before 2006 on the package for all of them.
so i was wondering if it would still be ok to use the film, or am i out of luck?

and could anyone help me on deciding what film stock to buy? i shoot mostly skiing and snowboarding, and if i had to choose a film look i like most it would be oversaturated colors, more than normal contrast, and a somewhat sharp clearish picture, i know some people like the extremely old school fuzzy soft look you can get (so do i) but for what im filming it doesnt work so well
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1-pippin wrote:hey, so i just recently bought a super 8 camera, a canon 1014xls. it came with 5 kodachrome 40 cartriges, the only thing is that it says develop before 2006 on the package for all of them.
so i was wondering if it would still be ok to use the film, or am i out of luck?
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also i was wondering if anyone can give me some tips for shooting, like anything i should know about the 1014xls, how to set it up best, and since im filming almost always during the day outside is there anything that i should know to help get the best picture?
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Did you get a manual with it? If not, get one, for sure. Its a great place to start exploring this awesome camera and all its great features. Then, just shoot a bunch of stuff with it trying different things. Good way to learn.

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what frame rate should i shoot at? i would think 24 but the manual says 16, what are the advantages and what characteristics of the different frame rates?
and where is a good place to get it transfered? thanks!
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For fast action, like skiing and snowboarding, I would shoot 24 fps for slightly crisper pictures (shorter exposure time) and close the shutter down to 150 degrees for more of the same. Shutter dial is the one on the left, ner rop, closest to lens. Set it to the upward position (sun setting). (When in low light set it to the other position as it will open the shutter to 220 degrees.

And sure shoot that Kodachrome and when you run out try some 64T or some Velvia 40.

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Great purchase! Always shoot at 24 fps or higher. The results will look better after telecine. I have a PDF manual I can send you. It'll help you for sure.

If you war crisp, 16mm looking images, order some Kodak 200t. It's amazingly clean, and looks pro, not like home movies. 500t will be pretty grainy. You may like the look. I have a few examples I can share.

If your shooting with lots of sun and snow you may need an ND filter. If you're reading the iris above 45 you can slap it on. It'll keep the light anlittle lower for the iris.
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Does anybody know if it's possible in the 1014 XL-S to select manually a smaller than 150º shutter angle like it is in the 814 Electronic, for example? And if yes, how?

It is very helpful when you are out there without the ND filter and I miss it in this model...
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No way to do this. You can shoot at 36 fps to lower the exposure.
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adamgarner wrote:No way to do this. You can shoot at 36 fps to lower the exposure.
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I guess. It's only a shame cause I love that sort of strobe effect with a smaller shutter. But the canon can achieve that look with enough light. I think an nd isn't such a big deal. It'll just safeguard. You might not even need it.
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http://www.apecity.com/manuals/

You'll find the manual there in the canon section.

Again, I don't think you need to get your shutter down to 45 degrees or anything that crazy. 150 will look great, and if you get that f stop up near the red, it's ok. But in the red, just slap that ND filter on. I've never had to, but again, I've never shot in snow and full sun.

Best of luck! You've got a great camera. 200T will blow you away.
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Make sure you expose for the snow. If you are getting up there in that red zone and do not have an nd filter try shooting 36fps. You will not get as much shooting time but your results will be much better.
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alright thanks for the help! since ive never done any shooting with film, only digital, what are some tricks and usefull info i should know?

and is this a good place to send my film?? http://www.framediscreet.com/
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You might like to bear in mind that lenses are normally sharpest around f5.6, so you might like to use an ND filter to achieve that. Depends on the depth of field you're after too...

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