Super8 plus-X negative

[Ray]

where can I get some super 8 negative films and where can I have it process ?

[Nigel]

Plus-X neg as in '31??

Nowhere that I know of.

Unless someone is cutting it and loading it for aftermarket sale. You can cross process reversals. But they will look totally different.

Good Luck

[sk8]

Kahl has Negative B&W.

http://www.kahlfilm.de/content.php?nav=9

http://www.kahlfilm.de/content.php?nav=11

[Ray]

As I can't read German, which is the Black and White stock? What is the speed?
Does the price include processing?

Also, is this a reload?

[sk8]

ACHTUNG! I cant read German either.

seems pretty obvious to me which film stock is Negative;

KAHL NP 21 - Negativfilm

KAHL NP 27 - Negativfilm

Schwarz = Black, Weiss = White

Schwarzweiss = Black + White

kopf = head

Schwarzkopf = Black Head.


anyway...im pretty sure they're processing paid. i don't have any personal experience with Kahl film...im just aware of their existence.

click on the individual DETAILS button and it gives you the DIN & ISO (ASA) Ratings

[Will2]

What stocks are these Kahl cartridges based off of? Do they make the emulsions themselves? I don't recognize the ASA ratings as matching any other stocks.

[Ray]

Hey Nigel, What is the ASA rating for Pus-X reversal when processed as negative? How much latitude gained? What about the grain structure,
is it comparable to 7231 Plus-X negative film?

[cubdukat]

Unfortunately, neither Double-X (I think you were confusing this with Plus-X, which is the reversal B&W stock) nor Tri-X Negative are available in Super-8, and it seems that neither Pro8mm nor Kodak themselves see much of a market for it, and I can sort of see their point.

It's such a hassle trying to get B&W reversal processed, so just imagine how much harder getting B&W negative processed would be for the average Joe. Personally, I could never understand how Kodak would refuse to offer processing for a film it makes. That's always been one of the big stumbling blocks to me shooting Plus and Tri-X. If I don't have to, I'd rather throw my film in the nearest drugstore photo bin like I used to be able to do. And yes, I know that's not the best way to do things, but I'm cursed with the character flaw of impatience

[Ray]

I got my super 8 PLUS-X reversal processed at http://cinelab.com/ and telecine at http://www.fsft.com/ with a good results.I shoot alot of
Plus-X neg. on 35mm stills and I love it so much I want to shoot it on
super 8.
Cubdukat, how is your new demo reel coming along? Hope to see it soon
on line.

[cubdukat]

I got my super 8 PLUS-X reversal processed at http://cinelab.com/ and telecine at http://www.fsft.com/ with a good results.I shoot alot of
Plus-X neg. on 35mm stills and I love it so much I want to shoot it on
super 8.
Cubdukat, how is your new demo reel coming along? Hope to see it soon
on line.

Just sent the package off to Frame Discreet this week. I was thinking about holding it back until after I came back from L. A., but i decided I couldn't wait that long. Besides, if I go by my current plan, I'll have another massive load of footage from that trip. In the last week, I've won about 900 feet of various 16mm stocks, and I anticipate picking up even more.

[Ray]

Just sent the package off to Frame Discreet this week. I was thinking about holding it back until after I came back from L. A., but i decided I couldn't wait that long. Besides, if I go by my current plan, I'll have another massive load of footage from that trip. In the last week, I've won about 900 feet of various 16mm stocks, and I anticipate picking up even more.

I 'll be attending Cine Gear Expo on June 20-21 in L.A. Hope to see you there.
I am going to ask Spectra or Pro8mm if they can cut and load some Plus-X 7231 negative for me.
You mentioned on the other post that you shoot with Pro8mm, did you have any problems with dust and frame stability?

[Will2]

I am going to ask Spectra or Pro8mm if they can cut and load some Plus-X 7231 negative for me.

If they want a minimum order, post it here and maybe a few of us can get together and split it.

The Plus-X negative would probably be a better choice than Double-X for Super 8, but I really like Double-X in 16mm better than Plus-X negative. Double-X just seems to have more character to me... and of course grain.

Problem for either might be processing... Negative B&W isn't a problem in 16mm but I wonder if they could handle Super 8 B&W negative?