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Ektachrome 64 UK Processing

Post by cinecymru »

I'm looking for a UK processing lab that can handle reversal processing of Ekta 64 and B/W Plus X and Tri-X.
I know this can be done through dealers like Widescreen Centre but would prefer to deal directly with a small processing facility.
Any advice from UK members gratefully received.
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Post by Angus »

sorry but as far as I am aware there is no UK lab processing reversal films.

Try Andec in Berlin http://www.andecfilm.de

or Dwaynes in the USA

http://www.k14-movies.com

Both offer great service for international users, I have personally used both on several occasions and recommend both.
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Hi,


http://super8wiki.com/index.php/Categor ... ed_Kingdom
lists the following processing labs that can treat reversal stock:

John Hall (Super8 Processing Lab): Finch Cottage; Knotty Green, Beaconsfield; Bucks; 011 44 1 494 672 757 phone

East Anglian Film Archive:
http://www.uea.ac.uk/eafa/
(it looks like they don't process films any more?)

no.w.here (b&w only):
http://www.nowhere-lab.org/

Blua AV has got this text on their webpage:
"We now offer processing on the following film:
- Ektachrome 64T
- Tri-X
- Plus-X"
http://www.blueaudiovisual.co.uk/products.php?cat=12
But I don't know whether they do this in house or not...
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jpolzfuss wrote:John Hall (Super8 Processing Lab): Finch Cottage; Knotty Green, Beaconsfield; Bucks; 011 44 1 494 672 757 phone
I'm pretty sure that info is out of date - I've never heard of anyone who has used him, but I could be wrong. The phone number must be wrong either way, must be 01494 672 757.
East Anglian Film Archive:
http://www.uea.ac.uk/eafa/
(it looks like they don't process films any more?)
They definitely don't process anymore.
no.w.here (b&w only):
http://www.nowhere-lab.org/
no-where process 16mm b&w only to neg. The only way you can do Super 8 reversal there is by doing one of their (rather excellent) courses.
Blua AV has got this text on their webpage:
"We now offer processing on the following film:
- Ektachrome 64T
- Tri-X
- Plus-X"
http://www.blueaudiovisual.co.uk/products.php?cat=12
But I don't know whether they do this in house or not...
We don't do this in house.

A lot of the info on the FAQ is out of date. Some of the companies listed only have the most tenuous of links to Super 8 gear IMHO.
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There are 2 I know of - one has a minimum charge of hundreds of pounds, so it'd have to be a massive run, and the other I saw the other day. It was a place that specialises in processing old films, somewhere in essex I think? Can't remember the site, I'll look it up in my history. They do every super 8 film ever made IIRC (maybe sometimes as b/w), although its a bit pricey.
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Post by RichardB »

There we go:

http://www.processc22.co.uk/

they should be able to do it.

You know theres a big gap in the market for UK e-6 movie processing, why can Germany, USA and Australia all have reasonably priced processing and not us? I've been waiting well over 2 weeks now for my films from Dwaynes, and its increasingly looking like USPS have lost them. I could get Royal Mail signed for deliveries and have a quick turn around if we had UK based processing, and I'd be prepared to pay quite a bit more than what I am doing now if that were the case.

Loads of places process slide film in e-6 chemistry, often by hand, so it shouldn't take that much adjustment to workflow for SOMEONE to introduce it - they'd have a complete monopoly!
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RichardB wrote:There are 2 I know of - one has a minimum charge of hundreds of pounds, so it'd have to be a massive run...
I imagine that you might be referring to Bucks? Whilst I'm sure that what you're saying was right some time ago, at the moment they explicitly state that they will only process Super 8 neg, and even then only by special arrangement at an eye-watering price.
Loads of places process slide film in e-6 chemistry, often by hand, so it shouldn't take that much adjustment to workflow for SOMEONE to introduce it - they'd have a complete monopoly!
It's not that simple - most stills film is done in 'dunk & dip' processors. Fine for a few feet of 35mm, but no good for 50ft of Super 8.
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Post by RichardB »

That's the place - it's on their website, but the way its presented gives the impression that they very rarely (if ever at all) do it.

"Machine set up charge and Processing of of 10 cartridges (minimum) £ 750"

"Each additional cartridge £ 20"

Probably worth it if you had a hollywood budget to shoot Super 8, but last time I checked that's just a pipedream. Maybe the £750 is for one of the staff to run out and go buy an e-6 movie film processing machine? :lol:
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RichardB wrote: Maybe the £750 is for one of the staff to run out and go buy an e-6 movie film processing machine? :lol:
Add a nought or so and you might be nearer the mark. The fact is that Bucks is a non-starter for Super 8, unless you have a pathological desire to bankrupt yourself or are the secret lovechild of Bill Gates and the Sultan of Brunei's sister.
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...and just to add that the processing quality and return times from our Euro friends thru UK resellers is great and really there it is is no problem...
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Post by Angus »

Don't forget Frank's Super 8 Netherlands lab. I've not used it but I hear nothing but good words about it.

http://www.super8.nl I think.

Honestly send out to one of the three (Dwaynes, Andec or Super 8 Netherlands). Its really no hassle you can even buy postage online
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Post by aj »

Don't want to spoil anybody's dreams.
But despite claims to the contraire Frank sends it to Andec.

So when outside Netherlands you are certainly cheaper and faster off when sending directly to Andec. Or use a local reseller for Andec services.
http://www.andecfilm.de/en/e_andecpartn ... britannien

BTW The Andec pre-paid envelopes are very much like the Kodachromes things and actually allow much faster processing then Kodak managed the last years.
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Post by cinecymru »

Looks like I'll be posting my exposed reels to http://www.super8.nl.

Thanks to all who responded for the useful suggestions and links.

I called Roy Salmons of Photoworld of Llandudno to check if he would process Ektachrome 64 but he too uses Andec.
But he did confirm that he sells the stock and processes Regular 8mm and 9.5mm CINECHROME 100D in house!!

Roy runs a shop:- Photoworld, Llandudno, LL30 1LQ. Tel: 01492 871818

He also publishes 'International Movie Making' - a quarterly magazine on subscription (£14 GBP/£17 rest of World) which I would recommend.

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To be honest, I'd say that the turnaround time when sending films to Andec in Germany and even Nanolab in Australia are as good as need be. I've had an 8 day record from both of them.

It amazes me that to send something from the UK to Australia and back can be done so quickly and cheaply, yet to buy anything from the USA e.g. Pro8mm often requires vast postage and packaging charges.

Remember, Nanolab's processing at $20 Australian dollars is only about £8, and that includes return postage. I don't think you'd get value like that in the UK.

I suppose the only gap in the market is where you need very fast turnaround and are willing to pay a premium. I believe Retro in Japan offer 30 minute processing for E6 Super 8.
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Post by aj »

USA USPS rate have gone up considerably last May 2007. Clearly their costs outside USA have gone up due to the low dollar. Likely they are well aware shipping costs are mostly paid for by the receivers, us outside USA.

Overpacking is indeed a plague with USA senders. The simplest flat things come in boxes. Possibly they feel or maybe they are responsible in extremo when goods are packed average or modest (Paypal garantees require it too). And buyer pays so a choice is quickly made.

BTW considering the conclusion by OP I don't understand the logic in deciding to send E64 films to an outside UK Andec reseller rather then a inside UK reseller. Or let alone prefer over directly.

The Andec envelopes are as convenient as can be. Actually you can ship film while travelling and find them home when you return.
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