ultra 8?

Post by **feinto** » Sun May 28, 2006 1:51 pm

just read up on ultra 16...http://www.cameraspro.com/ultra16cameraspro.html...is it possible for a ultra 8mm?

Post by **avr** » Sun May 28, 2006 8:00 pm

The reply is NO, because the perforation is in the midle of the frame

Post by **gianni1** » Sun May 28, 2006 9:08 pm

No with Super 8, but YES if you do it with regular 8 instead.

A problem to ignore is that the framing within projectors gates would be odd in standard sized gates, with the solution probably be special cropping in custom 8mm telecine - filmchain - dv frame capture.

Gianni

Post by **jaxshooter** » Mon May 29, 2006 10:29 pm

Hmm.Interesting idea.I would like to see a camera like the Beaulieu MR8 converted to ultra 8.Think of the advantages.Real pressure plate,interchangeable lenses,full choice of film stocks that are available in 16mm (there are places that can reperf the stock, I understand).

Now all you need is a transfer facility that can handle it.I would be more apt to look at something like that as opposed to super duper 8 or Max 8.Sounds like a plan.Anyone interested in pursuing this, PM me.

Post by **Mitch Perkins** » Tue May 30, 2006 9:18 am

jaxshooter wrote:Hmm.Interesting idea.I would like to see a camera like the Beaulieu MR8 converted to ultra 8.Think of the advantages.Real pressure plate,interchangeable lenses,full choice of film stocks that are available in 16mm (there are places that can reperf the stock, I understand).

Now all you need is a transfer facility that can handle it.I would be more apt to look at something like that as opposed to super duper 8 or Max 8.Sounds like a plan.Anyone interested in pursuing this, PM me.

We use a Sankyo Blahbbity Blah Dual 8 projector for reg 8mm transfers, and the image is all already there. I pulled the mask that cropped for S8/R8, and this had the effect of revealing the whole frame, edge to edge and horizontal frame lines. If the customer requested it, we could letterbox the image and presto! Ultra 8 is a done deal.
Same VF issues as SD8, but that never stopped anyone...

mitch

Post by aj » Tue May 30, 2006 9:38 am

I know of one camera and projector set custom modified for using DS8 as panorama format. I.e. the film is exposed full width in one run. Never seen it in use but I met the instrumentmake who did the modification on both machines.

Post by **Nicholas Kovats** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:52 am

Andre.

I just found your post.

Do you happen to have the contact for the tech who did this conversion?

Regards,

Nicholas K
Toronto, ONT

Post by **sciolist** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:18 am

Ruedi Muster of Ruedi Muster Film & Fernsehtechnik, 2545 Selzach, Switzerland, Tel. ++41 (0)32 641 10 46, is a strong advocate of the DS8 Breitwand format. He provides repair services for all types of small format cine cameras and projectors and is probably the constructor of the camera and projector described.

Post by **David M. Leugers** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:02 am

The most famous R-8mm of all time = the Zapruder film of the JFK assassination has the extra image between the sprockets. He used a B+H 414PD zoom camera which was really a pretty neat camera. The only drawback (for me) with this camera is that it does not film at 24fps. All copies of this camera expose the area between the sprocket holes and the zoom lens covers it rather nicely. I suppose any R-8mm camera with a zoom lens could have the gate widened to capture images between the sprockets. I wonder if there would be any problems in replacing the "D" mount turret on a Bolex H-8 with a "C" mount turret from an H-16 so you could use "C" mount lenses and which would cover the additional area... Being able to transfer the film with the widescreen images would be easy to accomplish.

David M. Leugers

Post by **Nicholas Kovats** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:26 am

Thank you gentleman for your prompt replies.

I will pursue this.

Cheers!

Nicholas K.
Toronto, CAN

Post by **filman** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:10 pm

do you mean this ?...

Post by **Nicholas Kovats** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:26 pm

What do you mean by the DS8 "Breitwand" format? Am I missing a German reference?

sciolist wrote:Ruedi Muster of Ruedi Muster Film & Fernsehtechnik, 2545 Selzach, Switzerland, Tel. ++41 (0)32 641 10 46, is a strong advocate of the DS8 Breitwand format. He provides repair services for all types of small format cine cameras and projectors and is probably the constructor of the camera and projector described.

Post by **Nicholas Kovats** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:01 am

Can you please identify the camera and stock used?

Thanks!

NK

filman wrote:do you mean this ?...

Post by **Rick Palidwor** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:58 am

freedom4kids wrote:What do you mean by the DS8 "Breitwand" format? Am I missing a German reference?

Go here. Last paragraph.

Rick

Post by aj » Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:49 am

freedom4kids wrote:Andre.

I just found your post.

Do you happen to have the contact for the tech who did this conversion?

Regards,

Nicholas K
Toronto, ONT

I never met de swiss guy.

I am acquintated with mr van der Does of http://www.de-snek.nl.
He did the construction/rebuild of the mentioned set.

Apparently there are more people who can do it.

DS8 widescreen implies that the film will not be split after processing and the full width is exposed in one frame. I suppose it is between the sprocketholes and not onto the material under and above the holes.
Would have to ask.

Filmshooting

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