16 mm magazine cameras

[marc]

Are you saying that the magazine is supposed hato have two cores in it? One for supply and one for takeup?

[studiocarter]

The film comes on a core. There would be a core left over in an empty mag, sometimes not. There must be a core to wind up the exposed film onto.
Two cores are needed, one to load, and one to collect exposed film on.

[marc]

Thanks,
I got it. sorry, I just read the info that you gave me.

[David M. Leugers]

Regular8mm:

Yeah, I had one of those from Superior Bulk film. It actually worked, but it was very Mickey Mouse. I want to make one out of a good professional rewind that will produce professional results. I threw my old Superior bulk winder out years ago.

I have not had a problem with dirt etc in the magazines because I carefully clean them with Lemon pledge and polish when dry. I blow them out with a can of compressed air to boot.

David M. Leugers

[downix]

I have a B&H 200EE and just bought a magazine to try it out with. a few issues tho:

1) the film is from 1937... any chance it can be used and developed?

2) The batteries for the electric eye are toast. What can I replace them with safely/how can I make a manual apeture control for it?

[studiocarter]

If the lens could be removed a manual one could be used instead. I have many such cameras, Revere, Bell & Howell, Kodak and all are manually set.
As for the film, Rocky Mountain Film Lab may be able to get something out of it, especially if processed to Black & White.

[studiocarter]

If the lens could be removed a manual one could be used instead. I have many such cameras, Revere, Bell & Howell, Kodak and all are manually set.
As for the film, Rocky Mountain Film Lab may be able to get something out of it, especially if processed to Black & White.

[downix]

If the lens could be removed a manual one could be used instead. I have many such cameras, Revere, Bell & Howell, Kodak and all are manually set.
As for the film, Rocky Mountain Film Lab may be able to get something out of it, especially if processed to Black & White.

Nope, the lens is fixed. However, I've been considering looking into modifying it for a manual lens instead.

The EE unit turns a small wheel inside of the unit, so I figure that I could tap into that for a manual-altering setup. Or, just focus on modifying the lens to be replaceable.

[2007pierre]

For those interested to use 16mm magazine movie cameras, I converted my magazines to single perforation film. This simplify my supplies and I do the reloading myself. To avoid any problems with the cartridge, I remove the exposed film and recoil it to a standard 100' reel. Then I send it to the lab for processing.
I also modified a magazine into super 16 (or alike) and the results are outstanding.
Since I only make familly clips, I use the standard 1" lens and the .5X wide angle attachment for short distances.
I have 2x200EE and one Film autoload Speester which I prefer. All great pocket size cameras proudly made in the US and no equal 5 decades later.
My best recommendations: If you want good quality records that will last a life time, go for it and stay away from numerics. All over it will be cheaper, more especially if you think before filming...

[Will2]

The size of those cameras is a real advantage but something like a Scoopic with 100' loads, great lens, auto meter, choice of any stock and the easiest loading process of any camera ever created ( except Super 8 ) makes it a good choice when you can carry something a little bigger.

[longlivefilm]

2007 pierre you said that you have 2x200ee, why dont you try 3d. i think family footage might be great in 3d.

[richard p. t.]

For those interested to use 16mm magazine movie cameras, I converted my magazines to single perforation film...

Hi Pierre,
was there much involved in converting the magazines to single perf? Thinking about the double perf limitation has led me away from the magazine cameras - that and my experience with the russian Kiev Bell and Howell copy (which as it happens does use single perf magazines but is otherwise unreliable).
richard

[slashmaster]

I'm just curious what all you guys do with these cameras? It seems like loading film into the cartridges and then processing only 50 feet at a time would be labor intensive and expensive. Are most of you guys doing time lapse with these? Is it possible to fit a bit more than 50 feet into these?

[David M. Leugers]

This is where the "hobby" attitude comes in. I do it because I enjoy the craftsmanship involved and I enjoy using the cameras. I usually use magazine cameras handheld for interesting grab shots in conjunction with longer roll camera tripod mounted. I always find it remarkable that a S-8mm sized camera can produce such great looking 16mm footage. Sure it is not as convenient overall, but that is not the point.

[richard p. t.]

Not possible to load more than 50' unless you are using polyester based film (which is really limited to laboratory stocks like print stock and sound negative).
The value in a magazine camera is the size and lightness.