Beaulieus

dantheman not logged in · Mon Jun 16, 2003 11:52 am

Heya all,

I'm looking to get a Beaulieu sound camera (ie. one that is reasonably quiet so sadly not the ZM series) - basically the 5008s, 6008s or 7008s. Does anyone know how these cameras compare? I've got the stats to hand on them, but what about other factors like design, operation, noise levels, other features....???? Which is best?

Daniel

Post by **Nigel** » Mon Jun 16, 2003 4:14 pm

In my opinion the 5008 series of cameras are worthless. The 6008/7008 are nice cameras. I would get a "Pro" model over the "S" model.

Good Luck

Post by **dantheman** » Mon Jun 16, 2003 4:26 pm

Heya,

Whyare they so bad?

Daniel

Post by tom* » Mon Jun 16, 2003 4:36 pm

Wow, I didn't know they are worthless.
Dozens of carts of film shot and I still didn't realise.

I'll bin it when I get home from work.

Post by **S8 Booster** » Mon Jun 16, 2003 5:19 pm

The 5008 is simpler in functions than the 4-6-7s but being an all metal housing cam it is remarkably silent and rugged. Not a bad choice at all in my view.

My Dos EuroCantavos.

R

Post by **dantheman** » Mon Jun 16, 2003 6:54 pm

Heya,

Yeah, I did get the impression that the 5008s is more robust. The thing that really seems to undo it in my eyes is that it only does 18 and 24 fps (although the multispeed version does have 8 and 45 fps...)...I need a reasonably flexible camera with slow motion.

Let's not get personal about cameras hey!!!

Nigel, if you think its useless (strong words) tell us why. And Tom, you clearly think it's quite good - what are the advantages of this model?

Daniel

Post by **Yemi** » Mon Jun 16, 2003 11:49 pm

Hey,

The 5008s has got a lot going for it. I was seriously considering using one.
It has the c-mount/mirror shutter combination like most of the Beaulieus which in my opinion will always put it among the better super8 cameras. The viewfinder with retractable ground glass is awesome. I have a 6008s which I love but I'll admit that the 4008/5008 viewfinders have the edge.

By the way, the 5008 series upwards have 1/60 sec shutter @ 24fps which I feel makes for smoother pans and more natural motion compared to the 4008's 1/84 @ 24fps. I've mentioned this in previous postings but nobody ever responds!! The difference is clearly visible and you're saving close to nearly 1/2 an f-stop. The 5008 is far from useless.

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Yemi

Post by **Ian_** » Tue Jun 17, 2003 4:37 am

hey, dan last night I searched '6008' on this forum and there alot of good info archived forum, if i could remeber which posts I d tell ya, but i cant.

Post by **camera8mm** » Tue Jun 17, 2003 5:18 am

I hace two beaulieu 5008 s I am looking to sell. One is the multispeed version, the other is the 5008 s. I dont have a microphone or battery to sell with these, but can make a nicad pack. They do work. Missing a couple of plate logos on the outside, but mechnically sound. One camera has the schneider 6-66, the other has an angenieux 8-64 lens, both with iris and motoried zoom controls.

Here are the specs from the super 8 list.

Beaulieu

5008 S

Year: 74-77

Lens: Schneider Optivaron 1,2 / 6 - 66 mm

Auto / Manual Zoom with 4 -12 s.

Ground Glass Focusing

Macro focusing

Manual / Auto Exposure

Frame rates: 18, 24 + single frame

Shutter degree: Var.

Fades

Lap dissolve

Remote control socket

Weight: 2550 g

Auto / Manual Recording Level Control

The first Beaulieu with sound

$305 eBay7/99 $400 eBay8/99 $430 eBay8/99

http://www.mondofoto.com/cameras/Beaulieu_5008s_3a.jpg

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Beaulieu

5008 S Multispeed

Year: 76-78

Lens: Schneider Optivaron 1,4 / 6 - 80 mm

Auto / Manual Zoom with Variable Speed

Ground Glass Focusing

Macro focusing

Manual / Auto Exposure

Frame rates: 8, 18, 24, 45 + single frame

Shutter degree: Var.

Fades

Flash contact

Weight: 2570 g

Auto / Manual Recording Level Control

Post by BK » Tue Jun 17, 2003 5:27 am

I guess somebody else thought the 5008S was worthless too, because about two years ago I found one at the local flea market, it looked very lonely and sad, on top of a pile of some other junk. Think the guy who was selling it thought it was a video camera, and after some haggling I got it for U.S.$30. the price includes the amazing Angenieux 6-80mm lens!

Although the camera is bigger and heavier, I found it nicer to handhold and is better balanced than the 4008ZM, and it's quieter too. Would love a 6008 Pro or 9008 though, well one of these days........you'll never know. :lol:

Bill

Post by **Billbot** » Tue Jun 17, 2003 7:09 am

I'm in the process of buying a 5008, having it fully serviced, and then crystal syncing it at The Film Group. ... Don't tell me its garbage! 8O

I own and cherish a B 4008 zm. I know it has more features than the 5008, but I just want to havea great s8 camera that is quiet, excellent, and will be a good camera to have sync'ed.

Am I making a big mistake? The whole thing is going to cost me like $1000.

:?: :? :?:

Post by **S8 Booster** » Tue Jun 17, 2003 7:33 am

If you are going to shoot for video this camera has only one limitation vs the other BÃ‚Â´s and that is a fast 70-80 frame slo-mo setting (Which can also to some degree be done in post). Basically all the other stuff the others do that the 5008 donÃ‚Â´t you can do in post production with a NLE program.

It is my impression that this SOUND camera was built solid because it was intended as a travellers camera - holidays etc - and thus was built to take some battering compared to the newer models 6-9008.

I am pretty sure that many (Most) 4/6/7 owner use the extra features very seldom and then mostly to play with. Those things are most useful if you project your films!

The lacking 5008 features wil NOT put limitation to your filmmaking. There are always alternatives for the creative mind :idea:

R

Post by **Nigel** » Tue Jun 17, 2003 4:58 pm

The reason I am not a fan of the 5008S or MS is that they have fewer functions than the 4/6/7 series. They usually have a shitty lens like the Schneider 6-70--which does not have a true macro feature as well as many other problems. I personally think that the 5000 series are dogs that were just bridges between good cameras.

Good Luck

Post by **Billbot** » Tue Jun 17, 2003 7:08 pm

Wow, I have never heard the Schneider Kteuznach lens described as "shitty". I have a Shhneider lens on my bauer and my nizo. The nizo especially make tack sharp images. I have tested both cameras against a few canons, elmos, and others. In my experience, Schneider lenses are excellent.

Nigel, Can you give more solid reasons why the 5008's are 'dogs' ? Or do you just like trash talking?[/quote]

Post by **marc** » Tue Jun 17, 2003 8:37 pm

The two Canon 1014 models have unbeatable lenses

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