Pro 8 Fuji Eterna Vivid 160T is correctly notched!

[Muckymuck]

Has anyone used this film yet? It's available from Pro8 Stateside and Wittner in Germany (packaged for them by Pro 8).

I have just bought a cartridge, and here's a piece of news- it's correctly notched for 160T!

I would have thought it would be popular as it will work in literally any Super 8 camera at its correct speed (with the exception, ironically, of my Quarz 1 x 8C-2- I'll be using it in one of my lesser used 40/160 only cameras!)


The adverts for the film in 16mm and 35mm make it look a fantastic high-saturation high-contrast stock. I was wondering if anyone has any stills/ footage of it in Super 8 so I can see what quality to expect.

[CHAS]

I would like to see samples of this from forum members as well. Funny how examples of Pro8mm stocks rarely get shown here, if ever.

[alex-rus]

I would have thought it would be popular as it will work in literally any Super 8 camera at its correct speed (with the exception, ironically, of my Quarz 1 x 8C-2- I'll be using it in one of my lesser used 40/160 only cameras!)

It will work in your Quarz because Quarz 1x8C-2 has +2 -2 mechanism, allowing to use any film from 16 up to 200 ASA.

[Muckymuck]

I wish it was true, but my Quarz manual says the following speeds are correct

200 ISO -2
100 ISO -1
50 ISO 0
25 ISO +1
12 ISO +2

Without filter.

So while the Quarz will read many films that others will not (such as Kodak Vision 200T and Kahl Dokument 12) it will not meter correctly for a 160T film.

Come to think of it, it probably wouldn't matter though, given that it's negative film and only a 1/3 stop EDIT: underexposure.

[alex-rus]

I wish it was true, but my Quarz manual says the following speeds are correct

200 ISO -2
100 ISO -1
50 ISO 0
25 ISO +1
12 ISO +2

Without filter.

So while the Quarz will read many films that others will not (such as Kodak Vision 200T and Kahl Dokument 12) it will not meter correctly for a 160T film.

Come to think of it, it probably wouldn't matter though, given that it's negative film and only a 1/3 stop overexposure.

For 160T You can simply turn the switch of film speed between -1 and -2 and filter switch in ''tungsten'' position, because the switch has no fixed positions.

And small overexposure will be better for negative film if you cannot precisely specify speed of film on camera.

[mattias]

Come to think of it, it probably wouldn't matter though, given that it's negative film and only a 1/3 stop overexposure.

where do you see "125" in that table, or did you mean underexposure? ;-)

/matt

[Muckymuck]

[quote="mattias"][quote="Muckymuck"]Come to think of it, it probably wouldn't matter though, given that it's negative film and only a 1/3 stop overexposure.[/quote]
where do you see "125" in that table, or did you mean underexposure? ;-)

/matt[/quote]

OOPS! Yes, of course, underexposure. Thanks. :)

[T-Scan]

It should have a filter notch, for true 160T no filter, 100D internal filter. I say this because I have yet to see a custom loaded cart with a filter notch. I did shoot one roll so far, here's what I said on alother thread:

I've shot one 16mm roll so far of the vivid 160T and got a best light print. It's not bad, but really not that special either. I exposed it normal with an 85 filter and printed on the 7283 (lower con) so what I got was a pretty raw, out of the gate example. It's really sharp, the grain is decent... but it didn't seem to have anything special over Vision2 stocks that I have carried through the same process. It's the only Fuji MP stock I have used so far, but I'd say it's look is closest to Kodak 7212 100T, with a tad more grain possibly. It would be a good stock in S8 for transfer and grading, but it still falls short of the punch you get out of reversals like kodak 100D.

[toby_tools]

Here is a link to Vivid160 in action. It's 35mm bit you can still get an idea of the color and movement of the stock.

http://www.cinematography.com/forum2004 ... opic=27052

Toby

[cubdukat]

Love the look. I'm definitely gonna grab some of this stuff before the end of the year. I'm planning a trip to San Francisco in february, and the last time I was there in February, I remember it being very gray. I need something to liven things up there.

[mattias]

san francisco looks fantastic on cross processed reversal. i shot a couple rolls of ektachrome 100vs there that turned out gorgeous. a misty day in the presidio is a photographer's dream. so, what i'm saying is that 160t might also work great. good luck.

/matt

[Muckymuck]

[quote="T-Scan"]It should have a filter notch, for true 160T no filter, 100D internal filter. I say this because I have yet to see a custom loaded cart with a filter notch.
[/quote]

It is true 160T and it does have a filter notch. It's notched exactly the same as old Kodak Ektachrome 160T was, therefore we have another film which can be used in all cameras at it's true, notched speed.

[onsuper8]

Here's a short clip of a project I have just completed, "The Ferryman", mostly shot in Fuji Eterna Vivid 160, shot with a Canon 814XLS, 85 filter on the front - the clip is only 25 seconds (of the 7 minute film) and it's in h264 Quicktime (320x240) 3MB but gives you an idea of what it looks like in Super 8 - I for one like the over-saturated look!

http://homepage.mac.com/onsuper8/junk/sample160.mov

I shot 5 rolls of it - no problems with jitter etc. all went swimmingly - I'll leave it up for a few days...

[Juergen]

What a great film look, Giles!

[toby_tools]

Here's a short clip of a project I have just completed, "The Ferryman", mostly shot in Fuji Eterna Vivid 160, shot with a Canon 814XLS, 85 filter on the front - the clip is only 25 seconds (of the 7 minute film) and it's in h264 Quicktime (320x240) 3MB but gives you an idea of what it looks like in Super 8 - I for one like the over-saturated look!

http://homepage.mac.com/onsuper8/junk/sample160.mov

I shot 5 rolls of it - no problems with jitter etc. all went swimmingly - I'll leave it up for a few days...

Gils'
This looks really good. I look forward to seeing more.

Toby