I took the advice and pulled the film from the cassette. This works, but the tension is too high to load directly onto the spiral. So, I unwound the cassette onto an empty 50 feet projection spool. This worked.
To make sure I was doing the right thing I practised with some developed film in daylight. The secret seems to be to feed the film in a about 45 degrees away from the groove. This assumes film in left hand an spiral being turned with right hand.
Anyhow it worked. Developed film looks fine. It is just negative and I have not projected it yet.
Also, all the above was accomplished in a large changing bag. I thought the tank migh be a bit big, but I got everything in and literally loaded the tank on the dining room table.
Home processing super-8, second attempt.
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Home processing super-8, second attempt.
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S8 must be tough to load being so thin and all.
R8 is 16mm wide and easy to hold. When I tried, in the light with old film, to load spirals they just wouldn't do. The film kept getting stuck. Everything was smooth so I tried the old projector trick. I sprayed the spiral with Lemon Pledge Wax and then wiped it very clean. The film went in smooth as silk, every time, all the way.
I do not know if the chemical residue would do any damage in processing; but, there is hardly any at all left after a good wipe. Anyway, it is wax, and inert. IF it would dissolve there shouldn't be enough to do any damage.
The hard part was loading the film onto the spirals.
R8 is 16mm wide and easy to hold. When I tried, in the light with old film, to load spirals they just wouldn't do. The film kept getting stuck. Everything was smooth so I tried the old projector trick. I sprayed the spiral with Lemon Pledge Wax and then wiped it very clean. The film went in smooth as silk, every time, all the way.
I do not know if the chemical residue would do any damage in processing; but, there is hardly any at all left after a good wipe. Anyway, it is wax, and inert. IF it would dissolve there shouldn't be enough to do any damage.
The hard part was loading the film onto the spirals.
The secret with the Russian tank seems to be the angle of twist for the film going in.
It was pretty warm and tacky in the changing bag. My first attempt direct from the cassette proved a failure, so the 50 feet reel was loaded in the same session. Then my first attempt loading the spiral went wrong, but Idid it.
It seems that if the start goes well just the slightest tension on the supply reel, in this case between thumb and fore finger, then it can be wound straight in without any problem.
I must admit I found it the same with 16mm, but being bigger it is easier to load initially.
I honestly think that lubrication is not an issue - but a bit of practise in the light is essential.
It was pretty warm and tacky in the changing bag. My first attempt direct from the cassette proved a failure, so the 50 feet reel was loaded in the same session. Then my first attempt loading the spiral went wrong, but Idid it.
It seems that if the start goes well just the slightest tension on the supply reel, in this case between thumb and fore finger, then it can be wound straight in without any problem.
I must admit I found it the same with 16mm, but being bigger it is easier to load initially.
I honestly think that lubrication is not an issue - but a bit of practise in the light is essential.
New web site and this is cine page http://www.picsntech.co.uk/cine.html
Home processing super-8, second attempt.
Always load film emulsion side outwoards into the spirals of a russian Lomo tank, so the layers of film does not touch and you will get perfect results.
Did your film develop correct close up to the perforation, this might be a problem with older versions of Lomo tanks when processing S8 (never a problem with R8).
Walter
Did your film develop correct close up to the perforation, this might be a problem with older versions of Lomo tanks when processing S8 (never a problem with R8).
Walter
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Did you get any splotchyness in your film? What I mean is were there many parts of the film where the emulsion was just wiped away from development? I hear many people are getting decent results with home processing but I personally am getting many splotch like parts of the film being totally wiped away. Is this the result of too high of temperatures or maybe this is from bunching the film up into spaghetti ball and then developing in a metal 35mm container? I even tried to process with NO agitation thinking this was the problem with scratching the image away. Still I had blotchyness. In most of my attempts, only 30% of my film shows any image and its very inconsistent. Whats your secret??
Did you get any splotchyness in your film? What I mean is were there many parts of the film where the emulsion was just wiped away from development? I hear many people are getting decent results with home processing but I personally am getting many splotch like parts of the film being totally wiped away. Is this the result of too high of temperatures or maybe this is from bunching the film up into spaghetti ball and then developing in a metal 35mm container? I even tried to process with NO agitation thinking this was the problem with scratching the image away. Still I had blotchyness. In most of my attempts, only 30% of my film shows any image and its very inconsistent. Whats your secret??