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eumig nautica - today use

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hi guys,
how do you use the eumig nautica today?

- what kind of silikon grease should i buy (and do you know where)?
my old original eumig grease ist empty. is there something new on the market?
and would you risk to run the camera without silikon-grease but with a new gasket?

- as for the 64T: is there a way to attach the nd-filter on the "eye" of the lightmeter instead on the lens itself? so i can use the pma and the zoom set normaly?

- have you ever tried other filmstocks (reversal) with this camera?

thank you very much in advance for your help

the best
biko

ps: if somebody of you has this orange plastic view-finder as a spare part or one he doesnt need, i would be very interested, as i lost mine in the atlantic ocean :roll:
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Post by Bjarne Eldhuset »

Hi! I don't have much help to offer at the moment, but I just got a working nautica off ebay, and I'd like to try it during my holiday which starts soon, so this is of interest to me too. I wouldn't want to use it to carry water in...

My brother is into molding stuff, so I guess he could mould a copy of the plastic viewfinder that came with my nautica. But it would probably take a couple of months before he got round to doing it. Let me know if that is of interest.
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http://super8wiki.com/index.php/Super_8 ... ld_cameras

Cameras with non-TTL automatic exposure

The following cameras cannot meter accurately with the Ektachrome 64T film but have non-reflex (non TTL) external light meters. If the camera reads the notch as 40ASA, use a ND 0.2 neutral density filter on the lens. If it reads the notch as 160ASA, use a ND 0.4 neutral density filter on the electric eye.

* Kodak XL series
* Eumig Nautica
* Canon 310XL
* Boots 3300 Power Zoom

Use the ruler to see if the camera reads the 64t as 40t or 160t:
http://super8wiki.com/index.php/Super_8 ... otch_Ruler

Hope this helps,
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Post by Rollef »

Inside the Nautica is the same camera as the Mini 3.
I have shot e64t in amini 3 without any problems. I did not use any filters\ND filters.
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Just checked. E64t Will be read as a 40 film and should work fine for you if you are comfortable with that little difference.
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Re: eumig nautica - today use

Post by Marco P »

biko wrote: - what kind of silikon grease should i buy (and do you know where)?
my old original eumig grease ist empty. is there something new on the market?
and would you risk to run the camera without silikon-grease but with a new gasket?
You can use any silicone grease that is made for this purpose, for example that for the Nikonos cameras, which is available from various dealers as well as via eBay of course.

Note that the purpose of the silicone grease is to lubricate the O-ring, not to provide a sealing which is done by the O-ring itself. Therefore, use only very little grease; just a thin coating of the O-ring so that it slides easily. But never use an O-ring without any grease. And check that there is no dirt or a single grain of sand on the O-ring.

I usually clean the O-ring first, then put a small portion (less than a pea for a large O-ring) between thumb and index finger and let the O-ring slip between them. This way you can lubricate the ring and simultaneously check it for dirt and cracks.

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Post by biko »

thank you very much,

bjarne,
thank you for this offer, but let me try to get somewhere an existing one before we get your brother into work. i hope i find one somewhere.
thanks

jörg,
i will get this ruler and check, thank you for the link

rollef,
thank you very much! so 64t will be a little overexposed - what would not be that bad underwater.
would you suggest to put the internal filter into position (put the slider inside the camera to indoor position to get some reduction?)

marco,
would this be ok?
http://olympus.digitaleyes.de/Unterwasser/i1004847
only thing that frightens me a little bit is the sentence: "caution different grease needed for different o-rings. the wrong one could melt the o-ring."
but if i understand you correctly, every silikon grease would fit.

thank you all
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Post by Marco P »

biko wrote: would this be ok?
http://olympus.digitaleyes.de/Unterwasser/i1004847
only thing that frightens me a little bit is the sentence: "caution different grease needed for different o-rings. the wrong one could melt the o-ring."
but if i understand you correctly, every silikon grease would fit.
Yes, although I've never had a Nautica in my hands, I guess that it uses simple black rubber o-rings that were common those days such as on the famous Nikonos I-V. You can use petroleum-based or silicone-based grease for these. See this as an example:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Nikonos-V-O-Ring- ... dZViewItem

Today, there are different, more advanced materials in use with all sorts of compatibility problems regarding grease. But even for the good ol' days rubber rings, stay aways from grease intended for bicycle gears etc.

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Post by rick dangerous »

Hi Biko,
I've used 200t in my nautica and i think it looked great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhMEbLSXG0E

the intro shots, and all stuff on the undergound were shot using the nautica loaded with 200t. the rest was shot on my nizo (which cam out too dark, still trying to work this out)

i'm going to be shooting some more surf stuff next month in france so we'll see how that goes.

oh, and if anyone has or knows where i can get a new eye cup for the nautica that would be great. the pacific ocean claimed mine!
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Anyone have the problem where everything is out of focus using the extra wide angle lens attached?

I know someone else on this forum had this problem and I said mine looked fine. But it turns out the footage I had checked at time the was not using the extra lens.

I have no idea what causes it to be so out of focus?
See pic's below.


Without wide angle lens
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With wide angle lens
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Post by super8man »

you MUST have the camera set to PMA - you get there by zooming to 9mm, then carefully turn the PMA lever, then continue rotating the zoom lens until it stops...everything will then work perfectly both above and below the surface...

By the way, what filmstock are you using - just curious to see results of unmodified nauticas using 64T.

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Post by Chris-B »

Excellent! Just tried It, I never knew it moved to that position!!!!

The zoom on mine is very, very stiff it almost hurts my little fingers to turn it. :oops:

I was just zooming to 9mm and turning to pma, I didn't think that I could turn it further after that.
I even went back to read your post the first time to make sure I read it correctly as I couldn't move it any further once switched to PMA.
I've managed it now. Thank you very much!!!

The pics above are with k40. I will try shoot some 64t with it next month.

Thanks again,
Chris.
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Awesome...its supposed to be stiff - in fact, I would be worried if a nautica did NOT have a difficult to move zoom...great stuff
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Post by super8man »

PS - You should see a yellow light on in the viewfinder...this is how you know you are in the right mode...and WITHOUT the wide lens attachment, the PMA mode serves as a macro...go figure. Simply unscrew the attachment lens while you are still in the PMA mode (with zoom moved ALL the way as described above). The length of the wrist strap when attached to the nadle is the length to your subject in macro mode - how cool is that!
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Post by Chris-B »

That is cool!

Thank you very much. I am definitely going to shoot some 64t in it next month now. Will post some pics for you, hopefully by October.

Thanks again,
Chris.
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