Nizo 6080 problem

Post by **simo8** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:26 am

Hi, great forum, glad I have found you all.
I have a problem with my 6080 and would appreciate any suggestions or input. The problem occurs when I set the aperture manually. As soon as I set the desired aperture value and release the dial, the aperture very slowly opens all the way up again. By slowly I mean it takes about 20 seconds to open from f22 to 1.4.
Any ideas? In auto everything is fine. Oh yea, there is also a slight hiccup around f1.6, it stops, then jumps to fully open. The hiccup happens in auto and manual.

Take it easy

Simon

Post by **jpolzfuss** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:21 pm

Hi,

are sure that you've set the camera to "fully manual" and not to "manual + fade"? ;)

You can download a manual here:
http://www.super8.no/manuals.html

JÃƒÂ¶rg

Post by **simo8** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:22 pm

Hello, thanks for your reply. I'm not quite sure what you mean by "manual + fade", but I'm not using any of the fades or dissolve settings. The aperture opens up without the camera running. Using the "- man +" dial to set the aperture to fully closed, it slowly opens up again with or without the camera running. If I release the master switch on the handle, the aperture stops moving so power is a factor, in other words the aperture isn't opening up under it's own steam.

I might take off the cover and have a quick investigate, see if something needs a clean. Is anything likely to spring out to be lost forever if I open the cover?

Cheers

Simon

Post by **ultramarine** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:08 pm

You can safely open it. just make sure that the position of the knobs etc, is correct when you close it. Maybe the previous owner did the same without being careful :roll:

Post by **simo8** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:48 pm

Thanks, I will take a look.

Si

Post by **-Benjamin-** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:52 am

Double post.

Post by **-Benjamin-** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:56 am

I have exactly the same problem with mine.
I'm not a techie so I brought it to a so-called S8/16 specialist who kept the camera for three months but returned it to me, having done nothing.

Anyway, I somehow manage to keep the aperture set by shifting very slightly the knob from the "fix" position. It is purely empirical and needs several attempts but it works for me most of the times.

I'm not sure it can be helpful in your case, but you might give it a try.
I surely hope you'll find a more satisfying solution when you open the cam and would be glad to hear about it if you do.

All best,
Benjamin

Post by **simo8** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:09 am

Thanks Benjamin. Sorry to hear that you have the same problem, but encoraging that you have been able to find a sort of work-around. I will have a go. As for removing the cover, well I gave it a go but saw nothing in there that I fancied tinkering with, so the cover went on again very quickly.

Thanks again

Si

Post by **jpolzfuss** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:04 am

simo8 wrote:Hello, thanks for your reply. I'm not quite sure what you mean by "manual + fade",

You can combine the fading with either auto or manual exposure. Even though your 20s are much longer than the normal fade-programs, you can achieve a 20s-fade with the camera set to "R 60m"-programming (approx. page 32 in the English manual <- page number as shown in the scan, not as shown by the acrobat reader)
Nevertheless: The LEDs in the viewfinder should show whether you're in "Fade"-mode or not.

simo8 wrote: the "- man +" dial to set the aperture to fully closed,

...and you leave the dial to "man" after that (=during the shot)? If yes, I fear that an electric part is broken

JÃƒÂ¶rg

Post by **-Benjamin-** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:27 pm

Hi Si,

Too bad you didn't spot the the problem when you opened the camera.

There is this french website http://www.cine-super8.net/ which is ran by a guy who says he's a former Bauer/Nizo technician. He seems nice anyway and says he might work sometimes on these models if the problem is not too bad and if parts are available. He also says he still has a lot parts.

I have other cameras than the 6080, so I have never got in touch with him.
But here is the info anyway. Please let me know how it turns out if you contact him.

All best,
Benjamin

Post by **simo8** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:49 pm

Benjamin, thanks for that link. Very interesting. I too have another camera that I use, but sometimes I like to use the 6080. I can still shoot in auto mode, it's just bugging me that I know there is a problem with the camera. Still it's good to know of a place I can try if I do decide to try and get it repaired.

Thanks again.

Simon

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