Tell us what project(s) you are working on... I think it's motivational to hear what other people are doing in Super8. What is your subject matter, what equipment are you using, what's your timeline? Any difficulties, revelations, surprises? What are your post-production plans?
Right now I'm trying to get a couple (very) old projects wrapped up. I need to get some stuff developed and transferred and then it's time to get rolling on editing. Both projects are related to endangered American pop culture in my home state of New Jersey. The first project was filmed entirely with super8 sound film while the second was filmed with silent Kodachrome. The second project will be finished first (due to less complexity), hopefully by the end of August. I'm tired of looking at piles of finished, but unedited, reels. It's time to get that stuff out of here... I don't want to start new projects until I get something completed.
How about you?
What Super8 project are you working on?
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What Super8 project are you working on?
SHOOT FILM!
sorry....
Didn't want to leave our our 8mm brethren.... what are you working on, 8mm lads?
SHOOT FILM!
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Right now I'm working on shooting the Velvia custom load that Barry got for us from Pro 8mm. I'm shooting a stop-motion "blaxploitation" movie with 12" action figures, dressed in appropriate '70s garb. Saturday I spent all day setting up in my wife's studio (she's in art school). Sunday I shot for a few hours -- a total of 8 seconds of film!
As soon as I finish this roll I'm going to get it processed to see how the colors turn out (before I shoot my next rolls).
Oh yeah, I'm using basic stuff -- a Bolex 155 with a 80B filter and a stop-motion attachment and a 650 W light.
Post production I plan on editing the old fashioned way -- with a Goko viewer and Hervic splicer!
As soon as I finish this roll I'm going to get it processed to see how the colors turn out (before I shoot my next rolls).
Oh yeah, I'm using basic stuff -- a Bolex 155 with a 80B filter and a stop-motion attachment and a 650 W light.
Post production I plan on editing the old fashioned way -- with a Goko viewer and Hervic splicer!
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Cranium
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I'm doing a timelapse of the demolition/reconstruction of my parents' house. Made it through 4 rolls for the demo. It's a down-time right now, which is good, since my XL-400 crapped out some time over the last 4 days. Fortunately, I've got 3 more to use! Unfortunately, I've got 8 months to go... Guess I better hit up eBay for some more cams (and fix the broken ones I have.)
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Well I know we are a long way of from you but over hear we do film a considerable amount of S8. My curent project is associated with local motoring organisastions and the way that they dovetail into the work with local authorities trying to promote themselves.
I am shooting on K40 and Ektachrome (the latter for poor lighting conditions encountered) and using my Quartz clockwork camera (because it is rugged and takes a few knocks) and my Nizo Special.It is being shot mute but with wild sound to be dubbed in afterwards with a professional voiceover.
The film is being shot at 24fps and will last about 45 minutes-say about 800ft of film.The FILM will then be edited,cleaned and tranferred to tape/DV./DVD alonf with its post synced soundtrack so the client can then decide how he wants it distributed (his problem) on tape or shiny disc etc.Its there that my work ends.
Finally,there will also be a married striped print for my personal consumption and screening to large audiences.The budget is still fairly cheap coming in at around £1250 GBP including a few quid for myself!
Oh! yes-and the folks who are sporting their latest astro expensive digital thingies are quite nonplussed at finding out that what we know-S8 is alive and kicking AND in use professionally.
Just to keep the pot boiling I shall be filming on S8 whilst on holidays soon.Film? It never went away for me.
I have many projects in the planning stages like always, but have one short film that might actually happen before too long :-) Its basically just recreating a dream I had, I will be shooting a night scene both indoors and outdoors and will most likely use Plus-X B&W film. I shot some test footage using a Canon 814E at 18fps, using K40 and was able to get an exposure using 4 500Watt lights plus the lights that were already there. Havent gotten the film developed yet but assuming it comes out lit well enough I will be using the Plus-X instead of the higher speed Tri-X, I may still use Tri-X for one shot, but dont feel like paying to processing 2 rolls, so I dont know. Now that I think about it I dont think I removed the daylight filter on the camera when filming so I was only shooting at 25ASA, so I should have plenty of light to shoot using the finer grained Plus-X. The color of the K40 will probably be off but doesnt really matter as all I will be judging by is the exposure, the final film will be shot using B&W.
for anyone interested, the test I shot was from the deck behind our house looking inside through a french door, to light it I put a 500Watt light as high as I could and shone it through the branches of a short tree, this light is suposed to be moonlight and bring the exposure outside up enough to where the outside part of the door, house and deck is visable. Inside I had all the lights on plus 2 other 500 watts so its nice and bright. The 4th 500 watt I shot tests both with it inside and outside to get different amounts of contrast between otuside and inside to see what looks best, using 2 500 watts as the moon didnt work too well because then the tree branch shadows didnt really work.
I have some other shots that will be inside, and include the lights being turned off and most of it happens once the lights are off, I am not sure how I am going to light this part yet, I need enough light to get an exposure but dont want it to look like lights are on inside or that it is daytime. I am contemplating shooting some lights in through the window, but am afraid it might make it look too much like its day outside, any suggestions would be greatly apreciated.
There is going to be a very wide shot of the front of the house, which I might end up using Tri-X for as I dont have the facilities to light that big of an area, there is also a scene at a concert where I will have no control over lighting, I may use Tri-X and possibly even push it a stop for that, I was origionally going ot use ektachrome to give it definition from the rest of the film, but Tri-X will work better in the low light and then I can use it in other spots where I might need it....
if anyone is looking for lighting gear try hardware stores, I found some 500 watt work lights that while they dont have conveniences like barndoors are a nice cheap source of light at only $10 a piece. The bulbs are not color balanced but I believe they use the same type of socket as the proffesional lights I have so they should take color balanced bulbs for use with Tungsten balanced film.
okay enough rambling from me for now, any helpful hints or suggestions on this would be greatly apreciated
~Jess
for anyone interested, the test I shot was from the deck behind our house looking inside through a french door, to light it I put a 500Watt light as high as I could and shone it through the branches of a short tree, this light is suposed to be moonlight and bring the exposure outside up enough to where the outside part of the door, house and deck is visable. Inside I had all the lights on plus 2 other 500 watts so its nice and bright. The 4th 500 watt I shot tests both with it inside and outside to get different amounts of contrast between otuside and inside to see what looks best, using 2 500 watts as the moon didnt work too well because then the tree branch shadows didnt really work.
I have some other shots that will be inside, and include the lights being turned off and most of it happens once the lights are off, I am not sure how I am going to light this part yet, I need enough light to get an exposure but dont want it to look like lights are on inside or that it is daytime. I am contemplating shooting some lights in through the window, but am afraid it might make it look too much like its day outside, any suggestions would be greatly apreciated.
There is going to be a very wide shot of the front of the house, which I might end up using Tri-X for as I dont have the facilities to light that big of an area, there is also a scene at a concert where I will have no control over lighting, I may use Tri-X and possibly even push it a stop for that, I was origionally going ot use ektachrome to give it definition from the rest of the film, but Tri-X will work better in the low light and then I can use it in other spots where I might need it....
if anyone is looking for lighting gear try hardware stores, I found some 500 watt work lights that while they dont have conveniences like barndoors are a nice cheap source of light at only $10 a piece. The bulbs are not color balanced but I believe they use the same type of socket as the proffesional lights I have so they should take color balanced bulbs for use with Tungsten balanced film.
okay enough rambling from me for now, any helpful hints or suggestions on this would be greatly apreciated
~Jess
Well, I have few projects going on right now. One is a "eternity project", a short film called 45 and single. I started to shoot it over a year ago with Fuji's single 8 film (the daylight one, asa 25) but as some of you might remember from my earlier posts to Mike B.'s forum, the films got destroyed during processing (the emulsion went off!!). I started to re-shoot it with Plus-X stock about a month ago (with Canon 1014 XLS). So far I have had one shooting day, I shot the first and the last scene. I stilll have some outdoor scenes and a club scene to do. Later, 'cos I must buy some more film before it... anyway, the film will be edited with cement splices and will be sound striped. Lenght will be about 5 minutes (24 fps). No lipsync.
I also make a lot of just home movies, travel films, punk rock, skatebording etc... Now I'm waiting for my "midsummer camping trip in Ã…land" films to get back from Lausanne. 3 rolls of K40 sound film and some darn great images!
I will also shoot a music video later this year with the famous Velvia stock (+ K40 'cos I will only get 2 cartridges of Velvia).
I try to get the films transferred with Roger's Work Printer 3 that was delivered up here in Finland (Jukka, is it working yet???)
Mikko
I also make a lot of just home movies, travel films, punk rock, skatebording etc... Now I'm waiting for my "midsummer camping trip in Ã…land" films to get back from Lausanne. 3 rolls of K40 sound film and some darn great images!
I will also shoot a music video later this year with the famous Velvia stock (+ K40 'cos I will only get 2 cartridges of Velvia).
I try to get the films transferred with Roger's Work Printer 3 that was delivered up here in Finland (Jukka, is it working yet???)
Mikko
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Patrick
I too am tired of viewing unedited reels of film (and I have so damn many of them.) Ever since I started super 8 filming about 5 years ago, I have always had the intention to edit. Finally, this is going to happen. I will edit the traditional way with cement splicing. I have many potential films with particular themes such as the underwater marine life of Kangaroo Island and others etc.
However, the first editing project that I will undertake is going to be all this footage that Ive taken at the Royal Show in Adelaide, Australia over the past few years. The Royal Show occurs in August every year and has fairground rides, agricultural and horticultural displays, equestrian competitons, stunt car driving, magic acts, farm livestock, fireworks etc. I have got many great images captured on Kodachrome 40 with my Canon 1014 E (always tripod mounted of course.)
Just yesterday, I was going through all the potential shots that I am going to use (contained on about 6 different reels) sketching each shot on to an individual filing card and labelling it. I have more or less worked out the order for the shots. During my filming, I shot cutaways of crowd reaction shots but I am concerned that I may not have quite enough to disguise the various jump cuts throughout the footage. When I do the physical cutting and arrangement of the shots, I hope to convey and capture the atmosphere of the Royal Adelaide Show. That is the main intention of this film.
I do have another project planned (hopefully soon afterwards.) This concerns an hour of super 8 footage taken in Canada which I plan to edit down to less than 10 or 8 minutes or so. It will be a travelogue style film again edited the traditional way. That is going to take a massive amount of work! I know that I just have to keep in mind the end result to stay positive.
However, the first editing project that I will undertake is going to be all this footage that Ive taken at the Royal Show in Adelaide, Australia over the past few years. The Royal Show occurs in August every year and has fairground rides, agricultural and horticultural displays, equestrian competitons, stunt car driving, magic acts, farm livestock, fireworks etc. I have got many great images captured on Kodachrome 40 with my Canon 1014 E (always tripod mounted of course.)
Just yesterday, I was going through all the potential shots that I am going to use (contained on about 6 different reels) sketching each shot on to an individual filing card and labelling it. I have more or less worked out the order for the shots. During my filming, I shot cutaways of crowd reaction shots but I am concerned that I may not have quite enough to disguise the various jump cuts throughout the footage. When I do the physical cutting and arrangement of the shots, I hope to convey and capture the atmosphere of the Royal Adelaide Show. That is the main intention of this film.
I do have another project planned (hopefully soon afterwards.) This concerns an hour of super 8 footage taken in Canada which I plan to edit down to less than 10 or 8 minutes or so. It will be a travelogue style film again edited the traditional way. That is going to take a massive amount of work! I know that I just have to keep in mind the end result to stay positive.
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SWISS CHEESE
Greetings,
I am currently making a feature length super 8 movie completely by myself. From start to finish, the only person involved will be me. I am playing 16 characters and various other voices. I sent the screenplay to a woman at Kodak, and after a few discussions about the technical aspects, she offered to send me free film. (this is when I was planning on shooting part of it on 16mm). The original idea was to shoot part of the movie on 16mm and part on digital video. But after shooting many hours of video, and trying to make it look like film with various programs (Cinelook,
aftereffects) I wasn’t happy. I began looking into Super 8, and now I am filming the entire movie on Super 8. The movie is SWISS CHEESE. It’s the story of a reported who gets assigned to the “Full Moon Cannibal Serial Killer” story. He has a nervous breakdown, and becomes convinced he’s the next victim. Matters become worse when a bum with an ancient dagger begins to hunt him down. The structure of the movie is a B&W silent movie containing three color sound shorts (supposedly watched on a handheld tv). I have just shot very extensive tests with Kodachrome, Ektachrome, Plus-x and Tri-x. I will post some stills for comparison. By the way, I posted the script on Frances Ford Coppola's website, and it scored well.
SWISS CHEESE " the film that all of Hollywood could never make"
If you are interested in reading the script, e-mail me: moviemaker@usa.com
Regards,
Al
I am currently making a feature length super 8 movie completely by myself. From start to finish, the only person involved will be me. I am playing 16 characters and various other voices. I sent the screenplay to a woman at Kodak, and after a few discussions about the technical aspects, she offered to send me free film. (this is when I was planning on shooting part of it on 16mm). The original idea was to shoot part of the movie on 16mm and part on digital video. But after shooting many hours of video, and trying to make it look like film with various programs (Cinelook,
aftereffects) I wasn’t happy. I began looking into Super 8, and now I am filming the entire movie on Super 8. The movie is SWISS CHEESE. It’s the story of a reported who gets assigned to the “Full Moon Cannibal Serial Killer” story. He has a nervous breakdown, and becomes convinced he’s the next victim. Matters become worse when a bum with an ancient dagger begins to hunt him down. The structure of the movie is a B&W silent movie containing three color sound shorts (supposedly watched on a handheld tv). I have just shot very extensive tests with Kodachrome, Ektachrome, Plus-x and Tri-x. I will post some stills for comparison. By the way, I posted the script on Frances Ford Coppola's website, and it scored well.
SWISS CHEESE " the film that all of Hollywood could never make"
If you are interested in reading the script, e-mail me: moviemaker@usa.com
Regards,
Al
I am in proproduction for a 15 page narrative piece that takes place in the 30's. I'm doing film tests now to find out what stocks will work best for my purposes, including some tight shots in complete darkness except for the light from a Zippo lighter. I'll probably use one of the faster stocks from Pro8mm. We'll see.
I will be shooting on my 1014 XLS with a 2x anamorphic adapter, recording audio on a minidisc recorder...haven't settled on the model yet...and transferring on my brand spanking new Workprinter, then editing on FCP3.
If there's anything interesting from my film tests with the anamorphic adapter, I'll be sure to post them to my website.
I will be shooting on my 1014 XLS with a 2x anamorphic adapter, recording audio on a minidisc recorder...haven't settled on the model yet...and transferring on my brand spanking new Workprinter, then editing on FCP3.
If there's anything interesting from my film tests with the anamorphic adapter, I'll be sure to post them to my website.
Just family films:
I'm kind of embarrased, but all I'm shooting is family movies. I just get such a kick out of watching the films my dad shot that I hope someone gets excited to watch the family in this format 40 years from now.
Just family films:
I'm kind of embarrased, but all I'm shooting is family movies. I just get such a kick out of watching the films my dad shot that I hope someone gets excited to watch the family in this format 40 years from now.
10 minute short for the Sacramento Film Festival
We're just entering post production on a short film for the Sacramento Film Festival titled "Walk the Walk." A year ago I got interested in making movies again like I did when I was a kid. My Dad used to have an old Argus 8mm movie camera and I would bug him all the time to buy me film and let me borrow it. For my 10th birthday I asked for a BAIA editor/splicer kit and my folks actually bought it for me! It was a wonderful experience making and watching movies as a kid, but as I grew up, small format film in America died that terrible consumer death at the hand of video. I played around with video for a while, but I hated the low quality, antiseptic look. Add to that the frustration I feel today when I try to watch a tape from the late 80's and its full of snow, interference lines and noise. My God, the format doesn't even last 10 to 15 years! I feel sorry for everyone who won't be able to watch the videos of their childhood because they have all deteriorated.
*I'm sorry, I'm rambling...
When I discovered a few years ago that super 8 is still alive and well I started buying cameras on eBay. I got a wonderful Beaulieu 1028 which we used to shoot "Walk the Walk." The story follows a woman as she spends a morning shopping in Sacramento's downtown and considers her relationship with her boyfriend, which is slowly falling apart. The story is told in a series of flashbacks as she goes from store to store. My wife, who is a professional actress here in town, plays the lead roll in the film. We shot it with B&W Plus-X and I've shot 42 rolls so far. I've bought 60 rolls of film total, at least 12 have been defective and chattered or jammed in the camera. Nevertheless, we got some great footage. Pac-Lab in New York is processing all my footage and Moviestuff in Houston is doing the transfers to miniDV. I have nothing but praise for the results so far. We are going to edit in Adobe Premiere 6.0 on a Pentium 4 PC. I've assembled a hodge-podge of local jazz and blues musicians and together we will score the film. We recorded location sound but will probably discard the dialog as the original intention was to shoot a film sans dialog.
It's been an interesting and expensive experience, nevertheless it is great fun. My wife and I are having a blast. I just love NLE! I will NEVER go back to trimming spaghetti!
Hopefully, in the next month or so, we'll set up a web site for the project. I'll drop a link into the forum for anyone that's interested.
Small gauge with a big heart...
-Manuel
*I'm sorry, I'm rambling...
When I discovered a few years ago that super 8 is still alive and well I started buying cameras on eBay. I got a wonderful Beaulieu 1028 which we used to shoot "Walk the Walk." The story follows a woman as she spends a morning shopping in Sacramento's downtown and considers her relationship with her boyfriend, which is slowly falling apart. The story is told in a series of flashbacks as she goes from store to store. My wife, who is a professional actress here in town, plays the lead roll in the film. We shot it with B&W Plus-X and I've shot 42 rolls so far. I've bought 60 rolls of film total, at least 12 have been defective and chattered or jammed in the camera. Nevertheless, we got some great footage. Pac-Lab in New York is processing all my footage and Moviestuff in Houston is doing the transfers to miniDV. I have nothing but praise for the results so far. We are going to edit in Adobe Premiere 6.0 on a Pentium 4 PC. I've assembled a hodge-podge of local jazz and blues musicians and together we will score the film. We recorded location sound but will probably discard the dialog as the original intention was to shoot a film sans dialog.
It's been an interesting and expensive experience, nevertheless it is great fun. My wife and I are having a blast. I just love NLE! I will NEVER go back to trimming spaghetti!
Hopefully, in the next month or so, we'll set up a web site for the project. I'll drop a link into the forum for anyone that's interested.
Small gauge with a big heart...
-Manuel
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Cranium
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I just got the first three rolls of my timelapse project (see above in thread) back from Wal-Mart. It's the first K40 I've shot in like 10 years. Damn Kodachrome looks good. Here I always talk about the potential of S8 ( and I know what it looks like, I just haven't seen virgin K40 in a LOOONG time) and I was still blown away.
Just had to say it out loud to some folks who give a crap.
Just had to say it out loud to some folks who give a crap.
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i'm currenly editing a super-8 short that i wrote and directed, finishing a 16mm short i edited, on a steenbeck believe it or not, and just completed a series of energie jeans commericals shot on dv that i directed and edited. the comercials are not released yet but can be seen online. i could potentially get in trouble for giving you this link, so keep it to yourselves. ;-)
http://www.mattias.nu/energie/
the films will also be on http://www.energie.it/ soon. and before you view them i'll give you the basic concept. it will be explained on the site and elsewhere and you probably won't understand anything without it: "styleclash", which is an ironic look at alternative lifestyles.
i suggest you start with the one called "business".
/matt
http://www.mattias.nu/energie/
the films will also be on http://www.energie.it/ soon. and before you view them i'll give you the basic concept. it will be explained on the site and elsewhere and you probably won't understand anything without it: "styleclash", which is an ironic look at alternative lifestyles.
i suggest you start with the one called "business".
/matt