Sleep Always rip-off alert

Post by **jpolzfuss** » Fri May 25, 2007 6:13 pm

Hi,

a) So far the OFDb.de only lists your NTSC-RegionCode1-DVD-Distrbution:
http://www.ofdb.de/view.php?page=fassun ... vid=165435
(Even though that entry was made by the German distributor-wannabe).
So the OFDb.de-entry is only a German translation of the IMDB-entry (minus the "German distribution".)
b) As far as I understood, selling/buying DVDs/VHS-tapes/... on OFDb.de is only from "user to user".

JÃƒÂ¶rg

Post by **MovieStuff** » Fri May 25, 2007 7:14 pm

Uppsala BildTeknik wrote: Is it common that people print their own books and try to get them distributed? ....

It is becoming more and more common for the reasons that I outlined above. If you are required to pay for all your own advertising and promotions, travel, etc, then the cost of printing the books becomes minimal, really. That cost is going to have to be recoved before profit, anyway, even if a publisher reproduces your book for you, so the main thing is who gets the biggest percentage of the profits per book. The main advantage of using a publisher is getting into their catalog which makes it more likely to end up in places like Waldenbooks or the like. But I know a number of self-publishing authors that have done no worse on their own, outside the mainstream publishing circles. I really have not tried to promote my book at all but that is something I will be looking into soon.

Roger

Post by **Uppsala BildTeknik** » Fri May 25, 2007 7:44 pm

Ok. Well if we are to continue on this very much on-topic book publishing issue... :oops: :lol:

Perhaps it could be an idea to send it to a publisher? Just to see what kind of deal they would offer. When you have that offer in writing, you could use it as a means of promoting the book in sales? Like towards bookstores, Waldenbooks or such (IÃ‚Â´m guessing Waldenbooks is a big chain of bookstores).

"This and this publisher wanted to print the book, but I wanted to keep the rights for it. That is why I am printing it myself, these publishing houses have already confirmed in writing offers that they believe in my book."

It is free to send it to a publisher, and you donÃ‚Â´t need to take their offer. 8)

Post by **Rick Palidwor** » Fri May 25, 2007 8:56 pm

Uppsala BildTeknik wrote:Ok. Well if we are to continue on this very much on-topic book publishing issue... :oops: :lol:

Can we please stay on topic. This is a serious issue for me and we all have an interest in stopping intellectual/property theft. I have received some very good advice from members who PM'd me and while discussions of book theft may be related we are drifting too far with this current discussion.

Rick

Post by **MovieStuff** » Sat May 26, 2007 12:46 am

Rick Palidwor wrote:
Uppsala BildTeknik wrote:Ok. Well if we are to continue on this very much on-topic book publishing issue... :oops: :lol:
Can we please stay on topic. This is a serious issue for me and we all have an interest in stopping intellectual/property theft. I have received some very good advice from members who PM'd me and while discussions of book theft may be related we are drifting too far with this current discussion.

Rick

Gee, Rick, in the third post of this thread I addressed a very important and specific aspect of your problem regarding signed contracts and the potential problem that might cause for you if this guy is caught. I also gave you a scenario about what happens to future deals when your potential market is diluted by piracy, even if that piracy dosen't really make any profit. I didn't see you respond to either bit of input so I just assumed that you were simply airing your frustration, as opposed to looking for practical advice. Also, I wasn't commenting that my book was stolen, just that self distribution is a tough game.

Roger

Post by **Rick Palidwor** » Sat May 26, 2007 1:22 am

MovieStuff wrote:
Rick Palidwor wrote:
Uppsala BildTeknik wrote:Ok. Well if we are to continue on this very much on-topic book publishing issue... :oops: :lol:
Can we please stay on topic. This is a serious issue for me and we all have an interest in stopping intellectual/property theft. I have received some very good advice from members who PM'd me and while discussions of book theft may be related we are drifting too far with this current discussion.

Rick
Gee, Rick, in the third post of this thread I addressed a very important and specific aspect of your problem regarding signed contracts and the potential problem that might cause for you if this guy is caught. I also gave you a scenario about what happens to future deals when your potential market is diluted by piracy, even if that piracy dosen't really make any profit. I didn't see you respond to either bit of input so I just assumed that you were simply airing your frustration, as opposed to looking for practical advice. Also, I wasn't commenting that my book was stolen, just that self distribution is a tough game.

Roger

Roger
Your first post was helpful and on-topic and it was welcome input, though I didn't have any specific response per se to post. My comment here is that the discussion has drifted into general self-publishing issues, which is quite a different thing.

Rick

Post by **MovieStuff** » Sat May 26, 2007 3:28 am

Rick Palidwor wrote:
MovieStuff wrote:
Gee, Rick, in the third post of this thread I addressed a very important and specific aspect of your problem regarding signed contracts and the potential problem that might cause for you if this guy is caught. I also gave you a scenario about what happens to future deals when your potential market is diluted by piracy, even if that piracy dosen't really make any profit. I didn't see you respond to either bit of input so I just assumed that you were simply airing your frustration, as opposed to looking for practical advice. Also, I wasn't commenting that my book was stolen, just that self distribution is a tough game.

Roger
Roger
Your first post was helpful and on-topic and it was welcome input, though I didn't have any specific response per se to post.

Um, okay. I asked if you had sent him a contract with your signature on it. You don't have to tell me if you feel that is confidential information (I certainly understand) but I did try to engage you in a discussion that I thought was relevant and potentially useful.

Rick Palidwor wrote: My comment here is that the discussion has drifted into general self-publishing issues, which is quite a different thing.

Is it? Aren't you self-publishing Sleep Always?

Roger

Post by **Rick Palidwor** » Sat May 26, 2007 9:24 am

I have been tracking the little Sleep Always thief and I found a post, which I am pretty sure is by him, at

http://www.developia.de/forum/frage115202.html

Can one of our German-speaking members look at this page and see what he is up to? He might have been pulling a play-station scam a few years ago. It might be funny.

Rick

Post by **Ghost Don't Walk** » Sat May 26, 2007 9:56 am

Rick,

I'm not sure of its accuracy, but you can input a website into:

http://www.babelfish.altavista.com to translate the page. I used it on the page above, and it seemed like it pertained to video games.

Post by **Blue Audio Visual** » Sat May 26, 2007 10:07 am

Rick,

Is your inbox full? My recent PM isn't showing up in my 'sent items'?

Check this URL

http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:Tt5C ... lr=lang_de

Bart

Post by **fogo** » Sat May 26, 2007 12:04 pm

Hi Rick,

not a cool situation by any means.

Some background reading on the current EU wide legislative - campaign position can be found here

http://www.edri.org/issues/copyright/ipr

Im guessing ur in the mood to read just about anything that helps at the mo,

all the best,
ade

Post by **Rick Palidwor** » Sat May 26, 2007 11:05 pm

Blue Audio Visual wrote:Rick,

Is your inbox full? My recent PM isn't showing up in my 'sent items'?

Check this URL

http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:Tt5C ... lr=lang_de

Bart

I got your PM and replied. I had asked you if you could access the poster page but I see you've linked it here. It wanted me to log in to get further and I didn't even want to try to log in to a site in a foreign language (and find out later I had bought some swamp land).

Thanks for their English posting agreement.
I had seen this there before so sent a note to the administrator's letting them know that this guy is violating the terms of their own service and asking that they remove the poster.

Rick

Post by **Rick Palidwor** » Sat May 26, 2007 11:07 pm

Ghost Don't Walk wrote:Rick,

I'm not sure of its accuracy, but you can input a website into:

http://www.babelfish.altavista.com to translate the page. I used it on the page above, and it seemed like it pertained to video games.

I tried Babelfish but the translations are so poor they don't make sense. It is definitely about a video game. I am curious to know what he is trying to buy or sell. There are many responses to his post which may provide clues as to what the gaming community thinks of whatever he was doing.

His posting is a few years old and I just thought it could provide some insight into his methods and perhaps some humour of he was offering something silly or an obvious scam.

Rick