Some S8 100D Frame Grabs

Post by **T-Scan** » Fri May 25, 2007 3:14 am

I tried to pick some shots that didn't have much motion. But these are some WP captures of farting around with the stock in S8, just to give an idea of color and grain in S8. They are not the sharpest, having some intelacing issues in my timeline. Aside from that the projected stuff looks spectacular.

Post by **super8man** » Fri May 25, 2007 4:33 am

Are you trying to make me depressed? I like the color rendition...I just picked up 250 feet of 100d in regular 8 (500 feet processed) and I look forward to getting some good results as well. Light metering has me worried but I shall give it my best shot.

Cheers,
Mike

Post by **Mitch Perkins** » Fri May 25, 2007 6:49 am

T-Scan wrote:I tried to pick some shots that didn't have much motion. But these are some WP captures of farting around with the stock in S8, just to give an idea of color and grain in S8. They are not the sharpest, having some intelacing issues in my timeline. Aside from that the projected stuff looks spectacular.

Wow. I sure do hope this stock becomes readily available from Kodak.

I thought there were no interlacing issues with WPs?

Mitch

Post by **T-Scan** » Fri May 25, 2007 10:17 am

I thought there were no interlacing issues with WPs?

It's not the WP, I need to fix something in my properties on my NLE. I think it may be removing the pulldown and causing blurry frame transitions on freeze.

I just picked up 250 feet of 100d in regular 8 (500 feet processed)

Judging the grain structure, R8 100D will most likely be finer grain than S8 64T. The stuff posted here is actually DS8, but I do have 2 fresh pre production S8 carts from Spectra, cut from the same Kodak perfed DS8. Going to shoot it on my camping trip next week. I'm assuming Spectra will have packaged 100D available within a month or so. But unlike the Velvia, there will be a fresh unlimited supply... and 100D is nearly identicle to Velvia in S8, but a stop faster and slightly lower con.

Fri May 25, 2007 2:14 pm

what NLE are you using?

Post by **T-Scan** » Fri May 25, 2007 7:44 pm

Vegas 6

Fri May 25, 2007 9:30 pm

Here are the settings I use with Vegas 6:

Template: NTSC DV
Field Order: Progressive
Deinterlace Method: Interpolate (you could also use Blend Fields, but I find this softens the image too much).

Make sure your render settings match the project settings. Make sure you use Vegas to apply your speed changes instead of Cinecap.

-Scott

EDIT: BTW, I think your images look perfectly fine. I don't see any interlace artifacts from the posts.

Post by **T-Scan** » Fri May 25, 2007 9:50 pm

To get rid of the interlace artifacts on "best full" I have to change the properties to 24P. I had accidentally set to remove pulldown on 24P projects from anither project... did my speed change with cinecap, so it may be recognizing it as 24P and removing the pulldown (these still are from unrendered virtual files). I'll get to the bottom of it later when I start some more serious work, but for now I think 100D is a great stock with better color and much finer grain than 64T.

Post by **MovieStuff** » Fri May 25, 2007 9:56 pm

T-Scan wrote:To get rid of the interlace artifacts on "best full" I have to change the properties to 24P....

Actually, the easiest way to get rid of interlace artifacts is to pick a frame that has none. Not all the frames on your timeline will have pulldown. Only certain frames will. Just scoot the cursor to a frame that has no pulldown interlacing and export that frame. No deinterlacing is needed, at that point. It will be a progressive scan frame that you can export at full resolution.

Roger

Post by **ALAN** » Fri May 25, 2007 11:08 pm

Would you have a frame of 64T you could post for comparison?

Thank you.

Post by **T-Scan** » Fri May 25, 2007 11:27 pm

ALAN wrote:Would you have a frame of 64T you could post for comparison?

Thank you.

I did transfer a couple 50ft rolls of 64T, nothing all that great on them but here are some grabs

Post by **Skippy** » Sat May 26, 2007 12:06 am

Since this thread seems to be talking alot about frame grabbing and time lines, What editing software are people using?

I personaly use Avid Pro but have yet to edit any film footage with it, still waiting for my first camera to arrive in the mail

every day back from uni as i turn my key in the door i am full of excitement of a note sailing i have a parcel

Tom

Post by **Bjarne Eldhuset** » Sat May 26, 2007 12:17 am

Nice frames! I use Avid Liquid 7, which has a camera-button above the timeline. When you click this button, a snapshot of the current frame is saved to a folder of your own choice. I'd guess many video editing programs have a similar function?

This is how I took this snapshot from a Vision 2 200t test I did some time ago:

Post by **Bjarne Eldhuset** » Sat May 26, 2007 1:15 am

Here's another one one of Vision 2 200t on a sunny day.

Love the colors and the grain of the 100D. The 64t were a bit softer, but the colors were very nice on those too. Seems like with the 200t I shot benefited from lots of light, and for logical reasons the grain was much less visible in the grey parts of the image. I haven't added blur in post on these two frames. But I'm sure there are ways to get less grain than I managed, though, both in pre and post.

Would be nice to see a Velvia frame too here?

Post by **ALAN** » Sat May 26, 2007 1:16 am

Thanks Mr T-Scan.

That T64 looks pretty good to me.
Now I feel better about the 10 rolls of T64 USP dropped at the gate last week.

I did order 1 roll of the 100D from Pro8, but considering the cost it'll probably sit in the freezer awhile.

Guess I should call Kodak about the 100D in S8 and order a 3 stop ND filter.

Filmshooting

Some S8 100D Frame Grabs

Some S8 100D Frame Grabs

Re: Some S8 100D Frame Grabs

Holy crap Mr T-Scan...

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