Lets actually talk about the RED Cam--Not Film.

[Nigel]

After taking a look at the website it seems like a pretty interesting unit.

The RED Branded lenses seem expensive. As well as the fact that to really get one out the door and working you will end up spending far more than the 17500USD.

It is kind of like when the Minima came out and Aaton was calling it a 15000USD camera. WHen it actually cost more than that to get it ready to shoot.

All in all it looks like it could be pretty cool.

It will be interesting to see one in the wild. It will also be very interesting to see how the workflow will be handled.

It seems to me that you would need some pretty heavy software/hardware to do anything with the footage. Lustre?? Smoke??

Either way you slice it this camera isn't for the hobbyist.

Good Luck
PS--Keep it on topic.

[Mitch Perkins]

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"Keep your posts about film. As long as your post slightly relates to film and filmmaking it's ok to post."

An expensive video camera is off-topic to begin with on a forum called "Small Gauge Film Forum.

~:?)

[Nigel]

You just don't stop do you??

Want to talk about the RED Cam??

Good Luck

[Mitch Perkins]

You just don't stop do you??

Want to talk about the RED Cam??

Good Luck

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[mattias]

filmmaking

there you go.

/matt

[christoph]

It seems to me that you would need some pretty heavy software/hardware to do anything with the footage. Lustre?? Smoke??

that's actually one of the nice things about it, you can work on a standard MacPro without fast and expensive disc arrays due to the clever RAW compressed worflow.

you'll even be able to edit natively in FCP soon.

if you're interested in the gritty details (ignore the slightly fanboy biased tone, mike from HD4I is pretty close to the red guys but technically he's very good):

http://www.hdforindies.com/2007/04/red- ... r-and.html
http://www.hdforindies.com/2007/04/red- ... dcine.html

[thebigidea]

What I really want to do is fight about Mac vs. PCs!

Amiga will win anyway.

Somebody give me a RED to make a weird sketch show with. Looks like it'd be fun for tv stuff... maybe a laugh track-free nonstudio drama/comedy shot on location.

[Chinese Belle]

The price should be surprising to many of us. High-end cameras always is just 'body' - be it video or film. Things like mags, viewfinders, tripod mounts, etc are always optional. And anyway, at this level production should be renting it, not buying it.

Lens wise it accepts PL mount.

For handling it, if you use the RED codec, a decent workstation (HP xw8200, G5, etc) will handle it.
FCP will accept the file but will only play preview it at 2k max.


I am more concerned about workflow because that is the Achilles heel of digital files- especially proprietary ones. I assume it will emulate DPX workflow and metadata is embedded in each frame still.

Will this take off? I don't know. The hype is there, but we will see. HVX200 had a similar hype but kind of fizzled out when people realize the cost of P2 and HD is kind of cumbersome to manage even at low-end of post production.

I think this will motivate people to get 2 perf going. I am helping a friend from an established camera rental company here in NYC to get a detailed 2 perf workflow from camera to telecine to post to DI to print.

this can save a lot of money vs 3/4 perf 35mm.