Very interesting film description on ebay!

Post by **Patrick** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:04 pm

After reading the description of this 8mm home movie on ebay, I think it could turn out to be quite something!

Certainly a powerful visual experience.

http://cgi.ebay.com/8mm-Home-Movie-1-Hu ... dZViewItem

Post by **Dr_Strangelove** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:41 pm

Sound almost like a drug experiance, its probably what the junkies have been waiting for ever since 2001: A Space odyssey.

/Jan

Post by **Angus** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:03 pm

I had a friend who dabbled with me in super 8 in the mid 80's. In fact he had a camera before I did.

His strange and possibly unique technique was to make sure that no shot lasted more than a second.

He had a Mupi so no zoom. Otherwise I suspect it would have turned out like the very bad film of Ireland.

Post by aj » Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:36 pm

Dr_Strangelove wrote:Sound almost like a drug experiance, its probably what the junkies have been waiting for ever since 2001: A Space odyssey.

/Jan

I never thought for second that 2001 had anything to do with drugs or bad camerawork.

Post by **Dr_Strangelove** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:11 pm

Well youre absolutely right, 2001 has none of that!

Ill explain, Ive read that when 2001 was in the cinema in the states during the later 60s, a lot of young people like to smoke a little pot before the show began to ''enhance'' the experiance, and well when i read the description of this Irish trip movie with all the zooms and 2 second takes I thought it would be something for junkie to watch..

Im not thinking rationally today.

/Jan

Post by **StoneBuilder** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:40 pm

Hmmm. I wonder if Lynch was on anything when he saw 2001 at the cinema, in the early days. But it's quite wrong to describe people who take psychedelics as junkies. Daftheads, perhaps. I saw the film on something, and it was quite amazing. It's just what people were doing in those days.

Post by **Dr_Strangelove** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:48 pm

StoneBuilder wrote:But it's quite wrong to describe people who take psychedelics as junkies. Daftheads, perhaps. I saw the film on something, and it was quite amazing. It's just what people were doing in those days.

Yes youre right, junkie was a poor choice, Im willing to go with Dafthead

/Jan

Post by **wado1942** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 11:11 pm

Ah but the thing is, film is good in this way. Because of cheap video cameras and media, there's A LOT MORE of these kinds of movies floating out there. When it was expensive to shoot, there were more careful camera men.

Post by **Bjarne Eldhuset** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 11:17 pm

Nobody bid on this yet?

I'd buy it if I hadn't just a nizo 4080 on ebay for 40 euros (the seller had misspelled the camera niza, so the bids were few and low - nice for me!).

This home movie sounds annoying to watch, but in the right hands, shooting short scenes can work.

In JÃƒÂ¸rgen Leth's and Lars von Triers "The Five Obstructions", Lars "forces" Leth to reshoot/recreate his 1967 short "The perfect human" five times, each time with a new obstruction.

In one of the remakes Leth has to make, the obstruction is that no clip must last longer than 12 frames (!). Although strange, I found this, like the other shorts and the movie itself, rather refreshing, and not nearly as annoying as one might think.

Post by **Patrick** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 4:07 am

"When it was expensive to shoot, there were more careful camera men."

Generally, but certainly not in this case!

Post by BK » Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:50 am

Bought a home movie from a second hand shop a few years ago with the metal reel and can similar to this one.

Unlike the description of this movie for sale on ebay this 30 minutes standard 8mm one I purchased was really really good. It contains early 60's scene filmed by a Hong Kong gentlemen of a trip to Japan on a ocean liner, then to Vancouver, Las Vegas, and finally Disneyland. It was well filmed and every shot was composed carefully and edited together, it was as though a professional cameraman made this home movie.

If I have the opportunity I would definitely show this to the MTV and DV generation of filmmakers locally..."Look this is how it should be done!"

Whilst the technology of the equipment for making movies available seems to have increased tenfold over the years, the quality have been going downhill all the way. Ha Ha,we are quite lucky that powerful 200X digital zooms weren't available back in those days.

Would love to watch this ebay movie, maybe after a good few beers with mates, we'll be more "drunk" after that and possibly have a "huge" hang over the next morning.

Bill

Post by **Patrick** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:05 am

That sounds like very interesting footage, Bill. A good find indeed! it's great when you discover gems in amateur film making.

Going back to the 70s Ireland film, it seems that the people running Cinematography.com don't share my sense of humour. I posted the same eBay link in the General Discussion section over there and it looks like my post been removed.

Post by **lastcoyote** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:16 am

BK wrote:Bought a home movie from a second hand shop a few years ago with the metal reel and can similar to this one.

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If I have the opportunity I would definitely show this to the MTV and DV generation of filmmakers locally..."Look this is how it should be done!"

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Would love to watch this ebay movie, maybe after a good few beers with mates, we'll be more "drunk" after that and possibly have a "huge" hang over the next morning.

Bill

Bill, will u count on me as well?

Philip

Post by **Angus** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:53 am

I have been told by someone who was there, that hippies used to trip to 2001: A Space Odyssey.

Actually been told by two people...one an ex-hippy and one a non-hippy who was annoyed by the hippies in the cinema.

Post by **StoneBuilder** » Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:40 pm

Yes - it's true about the hippies, in wild and callow youth, and you could smoke in the cinema in those days too. But don't concentrate on the externals too much. Both Arthur C. Clarke and Stanley Kubrick, not to mention the special effects team, were influenced by the prevailing drug culture and incorporated that into both the book and the film, even if they hadn't directly experimented with the substances themselves. (As opposed to Peter Fonda and Dennis Hopper who so clearly had). Now the cinema where I first saw 2001 is best known for having had Peter Kay work there as an usher - but many years later. And it's closed now.