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Reminds me of pixelvision - the PXL2000.

neat stuff.

Probably not cost effective but good for financed projects in some sense I am sure.
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Not sure I understand the resistance to this innovative process. Most art is not "practical," and is often created through a process that doesn't make economic sense. But so what? This is interesting and cool, and clearly a labor of love. A lot like shooting Super8 with 30-year-old cameras that are hard to repair, right? And what about hand-processing? That's labor-intensive, and sometimes things go "wrong" and the image isn't what I expected or intended, but that's part of the beauty of it. And when I scratch on film, it's back-breaking and eye-straining, but there's nothing like it!

If Jesse wanted a less rough look I'm sure he'd do something else.

If there are more clips of this printed process, I'd love to see them!

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Yes, that's neat stuff.

Back in -93 me and my class mate did some similar experiments, but we printed on some clear (overexposed) film strips that were glued on a A4 paper sheet with spray adhesive. We soon run out of clear base and contacted kodak by FAX asking if they would sell us some clear perforated film. There was no answear and we were busy making other stuff so the project died. I remember we printed with a 600dpi b/w laser printer, and as you may figure, the dots were really huge when projected.
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i wonder if it'd be possible to run clear leader through the right kind of printer... hmm
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An alternative would be to convert a 45rpm turntable into a projector, and print the sequence of frames in a spiral on one sheet of OHP film. Then with the projector gate - shutter moves outwards, like the record needle-arm. Maybe roll the sheet of OHP film into a cylinder... like the early wax audio recorders.

I think I actually saw that somewhere, in some cine history photos, so it's not my original idea....

I use OHP film, comes in hundred foot rolls of 8" wide film.... For my next project, I'll setup my Russian FKD 8x10" view camera for my next movie. I'll record off the ground glass with a super 8 or camcorder or digital camera... since I don't have any 3 ASA glass plate film.

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SKJ wrote:Not sure I understand the resistance to this innovative process. Most art is not "practical," and is often created through a process that doesn't make economic sense. But so what? This is interesting and cool, and clearly a labor of love. A lot like shooting Super8 with 30-year-old cameras that are hard to repair, right? And what about hand-processing? That's labor-intensive, and sometimes things go "wrong" and the image isn't what I expected or intended, but that's part of the beauty of it. And when I scratch on film, it's back-breaking and eye-straining, but there's nothing like it!

If Jesse wanted a less rough look I'm sure he'd do something else.

If there are more clips of this printed process, I'd love to see them!

Thanks!

Stephen Kent Jusick
Completely agree with you...my simple point was that this may not be the way for folks just getting into small format filmmaking since this old film technology is beyond the reach of most in so many ways already...this process (albeit cool and whatnot) is similr to coloring/scratching individual frames in its labour intensity, that is all.

But hey, if you are doing prison time, this fact may not be an issue.

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This new format combines the worst properties of video and film.
I love it!!!
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SKJ wrote:right?
right!

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This is a wacky cool idea, except for the sprockethole cutting. Interestingly a similar inkjet transparency technique is used in still photography to create digital negatives for subsequent contact printing. The options of mixing film and computer processes keep expanding!
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i wonder if it'd be possible to run clear leader through the right kind of printer... hmm
I tried something similar, taped short lengths of overexposed film and/or with emulsion washed off to a piece of paper to run thro. Kind of worked (unregistered random image on the film tho of course) but smeared too much...
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Post by robbie »

The canon 9000 series printer has worked best for me when doing this process and punching out the sprocket holes with a tape splicer, although i printed 16mm size. For me it's a desirable aesthetic.
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What a cool idea! I love the look.
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This is one of the innovativ ideas I've seen on Super 8 in the last years. Really great, I have to try it out by myself.

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Post by VideoFred »

Mitch Perkins wrote:Should be accomplished at least a little quicker with the home-manufacture of a simple square punch. Practice on some "blanks"...
And a piece of hard wood to put the film on. A round puncher can be found everyware. It's easy to grind the top square.

Very nice experiment! :idea:

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