we might pick one up for our documentary projects to use in combination with 8 and 16mm footage.
The JVC HD series looks like the best option out there for the format. Is DV going to get much better than this with solid state recording technology on the rise?
Thanks in advance for any input our experiences you might have,
I like the fact that it has interchangable lenses. That is a major plus...
From my understanding the Canon is still the best since it has full HD SDI outs. So, from the camera you get a full 444 single that can go to a deck or drive.
...I have never heard about pulling full 4:4:4 color space from a DV camera. Color space is not my biggest concern. My top requirements are
1) real HD lens options (the JVC accepts the Fujinon complement and takes the mini 35 with relay lens instead of doubling up like the DVX and HVX)
2) ergonomics ( I want a shoulder cam because I will primarily use it "hand held")
3) native 16:9 with high resolution
The JVC HD cameras are nice to hold and operate like "real" cine cameras. They seem to be the "cat on the shoulder" DV cam..
I like the design of the JVC, but the experts still the rate the DVX100A and the new HVX200 as the best cameras right now in their price range (under 10K)
If you want to read users comments on all dv/24p/HD cams, go over to dvxusers.com
You aren't taking the full color space from DV. It is coming from the HD SDI out on the side of the camera. Recording on camera is very much like if not the same as the JVC. It has room to grow....
Yes, the standard mount is pretty cool on the JVC and when it came out a few years back I thought it was and still is the shit.
All in all a cool camera.
The workflow on the HVX is pretty sweet.
I don't think that there is any one that is just horrid. But, the Canon does lead in my book only because of that HD SDI.
Super8rules wrote:I like the design of the JVC, but the experts still the rate the DVX100A and the new HVX200 as the best cameras right now in their price range (under 10K)
If you want to read users comments on all dv/24p/HD cams, go over to dvxusers.com
The ergonomics of the DVX and HVX cameras are what I don't like about them. Otherwise I think they are very nice.
I have yet to see an "HD" cam under $50,000 that was worth its weight in crap. They have very low dynamic range, LOTS of compression which makes the images fall apart during editing etc. In my observation, a good SD camera is WAY better, and often clearer than a cheap HD camera.
I know this is a bit off subject, but has anyone thought about getting at top-notch DSLR (like the Canon EOS 5D) that has the capability of shooting video as well? It might be limited on the FPS and storage, but the idea of shooting video at a full 35mm frame makes it very tempting, if not to purchase, at least to try out.
wado1942 wrote:I have yet to see an "HD" cam under $50,000 that was worth its weight in crap. They have very low dynamic range, LOTS of compression which makes the images fall apart during editing etc. In my observation, a good SD camera is WAY better, and often clearer than a cheap HD camera.
sk360 wrote:I know this is a bit off subject, but has anyone thought about getting at top-notch DSLR (like the Canon EOS 5D) that has the capability of shooting video as well? It might be limited on the FPS and storage, but the idea of shooting video at a full 35mm frame makes it very tempting, if not to purchase, at least to try out.
That is beautifully shot. I have made a 30 second picture like this too. Lots of creative possibilities with this look, but it is only fun for a short period of time, then the audience wants to close their eyes or vomit.
That is beautifully shot. I have made a 30 second picture like this too. Lots of creative possibilities with this look, but it is only fun for a short period of time, then the audience wants to close their eyes or vomit.
Steve
Well, this is just an example of what can be done. I believe the 20D can film up to 5 FPS, the highest I've heard to date is 14. Still, it only makes me wonder how long it will be before someone makes a DSLR that can film at 24 FPS. It can't be too much longer...
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