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Beaulieu / Angenieux Question

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Finally got my 2008 up and running last night. Had to gut the battery compartment and solder wires directly to the circuit board (long story). Now it purrs like a kitten.

Here's my question:

I have the Angenieux 8-64 lens. In manual mode, when I move the aperture ring, should I hear the gears turning in the lens control unit? Isn't there supposed to be some sort of clutch to prevent stripping the gears?

Works great in auto mode, but who uses auto? :wink:

Sorry for the dumb question. I checked the manual but there was no clear answer.
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....I don't know about 2008. Bjorn Andersson on this forum does.

The 4008ZMII does not have a clutch and thus there is a resistance when adjusting aperture in manual mode.. I don't think it damages it..

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No clutch on my 2008 and yes it does turn the gears. A little annoying as it will keep turning for a bit if I don't stop it :?
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The motor in the tube beside the lens should interlock with the aperture control of the lens. If you turn the aperture you hear the gears going...
If the camera is on then the meter system should position the aperture.
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steve hyde wrote:....I don't know about 2008. Bjorn Andersson on this forum does.



Steve
Have you ever seen a post with some free public advise?
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aj wrote:The motor in the tube beside the lens should interlock with the aperture control of the lens. If you turn the aperture you hear the gears going...
If the camera is on then the meter system should position the aperture.
Yeah, I knew that. I was just wondering if there was a clutch. Thanks.
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...no I asked Bjorn about it and he told me the de-clutch requires a modification. I assume that disables the automatic feature. Might not be a bad idea since the auto iris is so jumpy. (at least on my 4008) Infact the next time I send him the camera for service, I am going to ask him to do this mod. Auto iris is nothing but a problem. I accidentally turned it on for a shot recently and it rendered the shot unusable..

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aj wrote:
steve hyde wrote:....I don't know about 2008. Bjorn Andersson on this forum does.



Steve
Have you ever seen a post with some free public advise?
Bjorn give loads of free advise on this forum and over the phone if you speak to him.
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matt5791 wrote:
aj wrote:
steve hyde wrote:....I don't know about 2008. Bjorn Andersson on this forum does.



Steve
Have you ever seen a post with some free public advise?
Bjorn give loads of free advise on this forum and over the phone if you speak to him.
Loads? Show the recent threads please.
Last post is from january... Some logo chat nothing to the essence of Beaulieu mechanics.

Mind the words free and public. Somewhat the motor of forums like these.
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I don't have time to wade through the threads from the last few years (I have more interesting things to do with my life), but suffice to say, and as many people are aware on this forum, Bjorn is an extremely helpful person.

If this is not your experience then you are without question in the minority (the monority consisting of yourself only).

I have telephoned him on many occasion and he has been very helpful indeed.
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As shown before you are adept.

No need to wade, there is one search function which works and this allows for searching on membername. You will find nothing usable for the average forummember.

You are an infrequent poster of open door observations which are of little help to readers.

It may seem to you there are many people with opinions here. Actually there are less then 50 posters and I doubt there are more then 25 frequent posters.

On one occasion, subject overhaul prices at different places - mystic suggestions before then, your dear friend stated in this public forum to never have given me an estimate for a 4008 overhaul. I.e. called me a liar in public. I still have that estimate here. Your friendly helpful friend never even bothered to pardon himself for a mistake or correct the text of the posting.

As mentioned before your friend is the one who makes the most money of this forum. And at the fewest expenses. I.e. never seen a paid advertisement. Of course I stopped donations a long time ago. I see no need for that where other win 1000's professionally should I chip in as a hobbyist for the privilege?
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Andre.......I'm just not interested (along with everyone else)
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Post by christoph »

andre,

apprently you had some issues with bjorn, which is unfortunate..
but you cant blame him for other people recommending him as a good service technician (and friendly person).. if this brings buisness to him, good for him, and good for the people who have a broken camera. it's a win win situation really.

you cant blame him for not writing more here either, maybe he's too busy, maybe he doesnt enjoy writing too much, who knows. in any case nobody is *obliged* to write here afaik ;)
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Re: Beaulieu / Angenieux Question

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Tom Doolittle wrote:Finally got my 2008 up and running last night. Had to gut the battery compartment and solder wires directly to the circuit board (long story). Now it purrs like a kitten.
Nice.
Tom Doolittle wrote:Here's my question:

I have the Angenieux 8-64 lens. In manual mode, when I move the aperture ring, should I hear the gears turning in the lens control unit? Isn't there supposed to be some sort of clutch to prevent stripping the gears?
There may be some sort of slip-clutch for when/if you crank that little ring around real fast like. I'll bet you couldn't strip the teeth off those gears if you tried...
Tom Doolittle wrote:Works great in auto mode, but who uses auto?
In that case, and if you don't use auto-zoom [that's the other motor, isn't it?], then you can take those motors right offa there - a little less front-heavy, and looks way cooler.
Tom Doolittle wrote:Sorry for the dumb question. I checked the manual but there was no clear answer.
I didn't think the question was dumb. I will say that if the manual doesn't mention it, it likely isn't a "mechanical safety" issue.

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Post by egdinger »

Mitch the lens on that comes with the 2008 did not have power zoom, only the ones on the 4008's.
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